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Post by harpman1 on Jul 11, 2008 9:50:37 GMT -5
No.
One.
Cares.
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Post by saunterelle on Jul 11, 2008 11:56:52 GMT -5
"no-one cares about Bushitler or Cheneyburton anymore except whacked-out losers like Dennis-the-menace Kookcinich. "
I beg to differ. I would argue that most of the country cares about our corrupt Republican leaders. It led to a changing of the guard in the House and Senate almost two years ago and it will lead to Obama's victory in November. It isn't that no one cares, it's that we're no longer surprised by the news that the Bush admin has done something stupid or sinister.
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Post by bolverk on Jul 11, 2008 12:41:04 GMT -5
"no-one cares about Bushitler or Cheneyburton anymore except whacked-out losers like Dennis-the-menace Kookcinich. " I beg to differ. I would argue that most of the country cares about our corrupt Republican leaders. It led to a changing of the guard in the House and Senate almost two years ago and it will lead to Obama's victory in November. It isn't that no one cares, it's that we're no longer surprised by the news that the Bush admin has done something stupid or sinister. That changing of the guard has led to the lowest approval rating of congress in the history of the United States. It also led to the current state of economic affairs, as congress wasted time trying to corner Bush with legislation that was unrelated to anything necessary for the economic advancement of this nation. The neosocialists have the purse strings and in two years damaged our economy because of their obsession with the fact that Bush is in office. The Democrats wasted six years trying to damage Bush at every turn, rather then accepting the fact that Al Gore lost and that John Kerry is an inept moron. Their obsession brought us down the current path, because they stalled at every turn, not allowing even nominations that were acceptable to people in both parties to come to a floor vote. Those actions, more then anything else, is what has led to where we are today. Democrats don't want democracy, they want control.
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Post by saunterelle on Jul 11, 2008 13:45:04 GMT -5
"That changing of the guard has led to the lowest approval rating of congress in the history of the United States. It also led to the current state of economic affairs, as congress wasted time trying to corner Bush with legislation that was unrelated to anything necessary for the economic advancement of this nation. The neosocialists have the purse strings and in two years damaged our economy because of their obsession with the fact that Bush is in office."
BALONEY! We've already discussed why congresses approval rating is so low. The people expected the Democrats they elected to put an end to Bush's war. This hasn't happened so congress is "smited" for it. Regarding the economy, the Democrats and Bush quickly passed an economic stimulus package that was supposed to help the economy. Didn't you get your check? It's moronic to claim that the Democrats damaged our economy in under 2 years. The damage was already done by the Republicans the 6 years before that. Why do you think the changing of the guard occurred??
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Post by The New Guy on Jul 11, 2008 19:18:35 GMT -5
i didn't get a check. apparently, the wife and i work too hard and put too much into the system to get anything out of it. only those who work less and put less into the system are "entitled" to get anything out of it. a bit strange, wouldn't you say?
if the republican majority congress was responsible for such a low approval rating why wasn't that approval rating at 9% a long time ago? why now? the democratic majortiy congress has had TWO years to do something. they have done nothing other than raise minimum wage and waste a lot of time. that is why their approval rating is the lowest EVER.
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Post by saunterelle on Jul 12, 2008 11:29:55 GMT -5
I agree that they've done nothing. It could be that they don't want to make any sudden moves that could hurt the Democrat's chances in November.
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Post by harpman1 on Jul 12, 2008 12:11:21 GMT -5
Then they are opportunistic cowards, hoping for more misery.
Anything good that happens is bad news for Dem's.
They are invested in failure re: the war, the economy, energy costs.
Ready to cheerlead any bad news in their rabid & shameless pursuit of power.
Good news for America & Americans is bad, bad news for Dem's.
That is just sick & traitorous: screw the people, we wanna win!
Not surprising, though: the Democrat party has been trying to diminish the status of their own nation for decades.
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Post by saunterelle on Jul 12, 2008 14:22:43 GMT -5
Is it "sick and traitorous" if, in order for America to improve, the Democrats NEED to win in November?
You see, the American voter has a very short memory. If things are going well at the time of the election the party in power will receive move votes than they will if things are going poorly.
The Democrats are simply letting Bush and the Republicans hang themselves leading up to November. They are leading in the polls and don't want to rock the boat. Playing it safe doesn't especially appeal to me either, but it's better than facing the consequences if another Republican were elected President.
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Post by The New Guy on Jul 12, 2008 14:47:01 GMT -5
i';m impressed, santurelle. it seems you do have a wise bone in your body. you are absolutely right that:
the democratic congress has done nothing and if things are going well, the imcumbant party will be re-elected.
the "sick and traitorous" part is that the dems can't leave it alone, they are deliberately trying to create the illusion that things aren't going well. shame, shame, shame.
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Post by jgaffney on Jul 13, 2008 23:43:16 GMT -5
BALONEY! We've already discussed why congresses approval rating is so low. The people expected the Democrats they elected to put an end to Bush's war. This hasn't happened so congress is "smited" for it. The people who voted the Democrats into power in 2006 listened to all of those candidates promise that they would end the war promptly. Once those candidates got into office and got serious about governing, they promptly dropped that issue. Except for Dennis Kucinich and Russ Feingold, everyone else sees the reality of the situation. Even Sen. Obama, who has only been in the Senate for 3 years and has spent 2 of those campaigning for president, and who spent the first 6 months of the primaries promising to get the troops home in 16 months or less, is now starting to back away from that position. Congress' approval rate is tanking because the only thing they can agree on is giving away money. Where do you think that money came from? If you ever hear a Democrat proclaim to be "concerned" about the deficit, you know it's a lie, because every dollar of that stimulus package was deficit spending. And, now Sen. Obama is proposing another stimulus package! Politicians and diapers should be changed regularly - and for the same reason. Will that encourage you to vote against Lynn Woolsey in the general election?
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