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Post by capttankona on Jul 5, 2009 18:25:38 GMT -5
No, you are the one saying that it isn't as bad because Slick willy et al have no morals. Since they hae none to profess or proclaim, then they can't fall short of the mark. As I said before, at least Sanford has some morals and values which in his human weakness he was unable to live up to. Slick Willy didn't even bother to try. Do you see the difference? No, I am saying those who preached that adultery is wrong and then commit the act, is hypocritical. You excuse Sanford for committing adultery because he preached morals and values, therefore he must be of a higher caliber. President Clinton's infidelity was wrong as well, but he didn't preach to the country as Sanford did, so he is just a cad. Let me see, the doctrine he follows does say adultery is a sin. It also says we are all sinners, no exceptions. It also says forgiveness is divine, and confession is the path to forgiveness, by everyone except political toads I suppose. People who lack morality and can forgive no one who confesses. |
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Post by capttankona on Jul 5, 2009 18:29:20 GMT -5
I am saying adultery is wrong. You guys imply it is acceptable if the person's position is not as high or it isn't rape.... in other words, Ensign and Sanford's case is not as bad as Clinton or Edwards, and that is ridiculous. Now hold on a second. You know my position on both of these. Both Ensign and Sanford confessed. Edwards did not and even asked one of his staff to take the blame. That is much different. And you know my position on Clinton. Edited to add: I hold Edwards in higher esteem then I do Clinton. Though he tried to run for cover first, at least he finally admitted the truth. |
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Post by Mink on Jul 5, 2009 23:14:55 GMT -5
A convicted felon goes to prison and Pres. Clinton is not in prison, therefore, he is not a convicted felon.
All of these politicians are guilty, pure and simple, of adultery whether they admitted it or not.
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Post by The Big Dog on Jul 6, 2009 0:08:40 GMT -5
A convicted felon goes to prison and Pres. Clinton is not in prison, therefore, he is not a convicted felon. Ummmm no, not all convicted felons go to prison. Being found guilty at the bar, or pleading no contest as Clinton did, makes one convicted. There are any number of felons who go straight to the probation system with their jail sentences suspended. The conditions or term of sentencing has nothing to do with the disability of being a felon. And as to the notion that a felony conviction should bar him from office.... he was serving in the office and the constitution has no such bar. He would need to have been convicted at trial before the Senate after being impeached by the House. He was impeached but not convicted, so he could continue to serve the remainder of his term. |
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Post by joe on Jul 6, 2009 13:22:50 GMT -5
A convicted felon goes to prison and Pres. Clinton is not in prison, therefore, he is not a convicted felon. You sound like a six year old. My mommy said....... And further show your COMPLETE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE of well, anything. |
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Post by capttankona on Jul 6, 2009 14:16:39 GMT -5
A convicted felon goes to prison and Pres. Clinton is not in prison, therefore, he is not a convicted felon. All of these politicians are guilty, pure and simple, of adultery whether they admitted it or not. I am getting sick and tired of doing your work for you. My 15 year old son takes the initative more then you do. You are pathetically lazy, which is quite common for NeoCommies that want to benefit from the work of others. Bureau of Justice Statistics, Criminal Sentencing StatisticsCriminal Sentencing StatisticsSummary findings- In 2004, state and federal courts convicted a combined total of nearly 1,145,000 adults of felonies -- state courts convicted an estimated 1,079,000 adults and federal courts convicted 66,518 adults (accounting for 6% of the national total).
- In 2004, 70% of all felons convicted in state courts were sentenced to a period of confinement - 40% to state prisons and 30% to local jails. Jail sentences are for short-term confinement (usually for a year or less) in a county or city facility, while prison sentences are for long-term confinement (usually for over a year) in a state facility.
- State courts sentenced 28% of convicted felons to straight probation with no jail or prison time to serve.
- Prison sentences in state courts averaged almost 5 years in 2004.
- The average sentence to local jail was 6 months. The average probation sentence was about 3 years.
- Females accounted for a quarter of felony property offenders.
Now maybe you will begin to change your tune. But, as big as an apologist as you are for the current and past statists, I doubt it. You don't desire freedom, you can't handle freedom, which is why you whine so loudly for socialism and excuse the abuses of your Democrat Leaders. |
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Post by capttankona on Jul 6, 2009 14:18:51 GMT -5
You and saunterelle are so easy to debunk that I am getting bored with doing it. You both make it far to easy.
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