Obama calls criticism of wife 'infuriating'

[The Big Dog]

Jul 20, 2008 14:06:22 GMT -5 saunterelle said:

Yes, lets start with her senior thesis. You've probably heard something about it on a Right Wing program but if you want to know the truth you have to look at it in its realistic context. This is taken from Snopes.com an honest and unbiased source of truth:

As I've pointed out elsewhere, and which you have apparently ignored, Snopes objectivity on this subject is not outside of question. While it is quite correct that any number of issues being raised concerning both candidates are BS, that does not mean that they should not be looked into. Perhaps if Princeton had not tried to stonewall the thesis and not reveal it publicly there might not have been such a flap.

One quote you cited is interesting...

Obama studied the attitudes of black Princeton alumni to determine what effect their time at Princeton had on their identification with the black community. "My experiences at Princeton have made me far more aware of my 'Blackness' than ever before," she wrote in her introduction. "I have found that at Princeton no matter how liberal and open-minded some of my White professors and classmates try to be toward me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don't belong."

So she noticed, correctly, that she was judged as being black first and a student second. A condition often observed by students admitted under affirmative action quotas as she was.

What was perhaps more interesting was this passage from her conclusion... which you seem to have overlooked:

"I hoped that these findings would help me conclude that despite the high degree of identification with whites as a result of the educational and occupational path that black Princeton alumni follow, the alumni would still maintain a certain level of identification with the black community. However, these findings do not support this possibility."

So, from my reading, she found that black graduates of Princeton were telling her that they were assimilating into the mainstream of society and not clinging to being part of a divided out black community. But as long as our society continues to insist on "affirmative action" rather than promoting excellence it should continue to not be a surprise that the average person continues to treat one another on the basis of skin color. And Michelle's thesis seems to argue for doing exactly that.

The results noted in her thesis would be bad news for a budding socialist, wouldn't it, and clearly she wasn't happy about it. In this sense her writing seems to be longing to maintain a seperate, yet equal or superior by edict, society for people of color. That is what is both questionable and excorable in the work, at least for those of us who really believed in what Dr. King said all those years ago.

The whole thesis is 96 pages and is available on line. Have you read the whole thing or simply cherry picked it?

[harpman1]

Same old story.

Black victinhood.

Whitey could never understand.

How about if I write of my whiteness?

A privileged woman whining about how tough she has it.

I repeat: guilt & entitlement are two of the most destructive human character traits, & they are THE core of the civil rights victimhood industry.

Yes, I said industry. Al Sharpton C.E.O.

[subdjoe]

Thanks for making my points Big Dog and Harpman. It takes actually reading her words and understanding them.

[jgaffney]

Big Dog, that was the way I read her thesis, too. Michelle was distressed that her research found that black Princeton alumni no longer saw themselves as black. Michelle was distressed because she felt that the world should be defined in terms of black vs. everybody else.

Remember, Barak sleeps with this woman every night. Do you recall how much influence Hillary was said to have on Bill? Except for the intern thing, of course.

BTW, Saunterelle, how are you coming on that CNG Honda?

[The New Guy]

"As I enter my final year at Princeton, I find myself striving for many of the same goals as my White classmates — acceptance to a prestigious graduate school or a high-paying position in a successful corporation,"

what goals would she have preferred to pursue?

getting accepted to a less than prestigious grad school?
getting a low-paying position in a failing corporation?
becoming a sharecropper?
ascending to the level of second class citizen?
living in the projects and collecting welfare?
becoming a crack dealer?
becoming the next big rapper?

the goals she mentioned are not the goals of "white people," they are the goals of "successful" people.