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Post by JustMyOpinion on Aug 3, 2008 14:18:33 GMT -5
How about maybe leave her kid with family (they all seem to have stayed in the same area, after all) while she works? Maybe she has to take a swing or graveyard shift to do this, OK, so what? It's a job. Maybe, maybe not. I agree that would be a good solution, but we dont know the facts.
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Aug 3, 2008 14:22:19 GMT -5
As far as "It is my opinion that if we spend the money to educate, and support people in the beginning of their downward spiral, before they give up on themselves, or society deems them unworthy they can become productive citizens and give back to society. If nothing is done to stop the cycle we have stories like this one over and over." I agree. BUT it is up to the individual to SEEK HELP. It was her CHOICE to not finish high school. It was her CHOICE to not go to a community college. It was her CHOICE to not seek alternatives when she dropped out (or whatever). WE can't go door to door and drag people into the appropriate agencies for help. THEY have to get off their butts and get the help before they get in too deep. It's a misnomer that help is readily available I think that's where this whole thing breaks down. People who aren't involved in the system think all a lazy as- has to do is go get productive help, well, I dare you to find it. In my opinion that's where the system fails.
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Aug 3, 2008 14:25:27 GMT -5
ADDED - yes, she may have been trying to do 'the right thing' when she had her daughter 19 years ago. But, if I have her situation right - unmarried, uneducated, no job, no job skills - the right thing would have been to give the child up for adoption. That's a noble idea, but how many young people really grasp the full realm of responsibility when having a baby. Maybe she thought she could do it only to discover it's lot harder than it looks. And, in most cases nature has a way of connecting mothers to their babies and it is a pretty difficult feeling to ignore.
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Post by subdjoe on Aug 3, 2008 15:33:30 GMT -5
It's a misnomer that help is readily available I think that's where this whole thing breaks down. People who aren't involved in the system think all a lazy as- has to do is go get productive help, well, I dare you to find it. In my opinion that's where the system fails.[/quote] I'n not saying it is easy. But it IS out there. One needs to go out and look for it, and be willing to stand up and not let yourself be ppassed off or ignored. It isn't going to be handed on a silver platter. It may take making a lot of phone calls, going to a lot of offices, reading a lot of material. It might take going to various advocacy groups. A good place to start is the information desk at a library. Or maybe a call to a state legislator (they love to be able to point to people that they have helped get out of 'the system.') So, yeah, it isn't just laying there, or available for filling out a post card. But it IS there.
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Post by subdjoe on Aug 3, 2008 15:34:05 GMT -5
If the numbers in the story are accurate, she didn't have her daughter (no mention of other kids) until she was about 21 (she is now 40, the daughter is 19, she was in the crash 17 years ago). So, what was she doing between whenever she left school and she had her daughter? Figure that is a 3 to 5 year gap between her schooling and when she had her kid. What was she doing? I think we know that by the birth of her child! ;D Sorry... No you're not! ;D
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Post by Mink on Aug 3, 2008 23:19:27 GMT -5
Subdjoe: "I'n not saying it is easy. But it IS out there. One needs to go out and look for it, and be willing to stand up and not let yourself be ppassed off or ignored. It isn't going to be handed on a silver platter. It may take making a lot of phone calls, going to a lot of offices, reading a lot of material. It might take going to various advocacy groups. A good place to start is the information desk at a library. Or maybe a call to a state legislator (they love to be able to point to people that they have helped get out of 'the system.') So, yeah, it isn't just laying there, or available for filling out a post card. But it IS there." ____________________________________________
This is all good advice subdjoe for someone who has transportation, a means of communication and a functioning mind. Who knows, if what you say is true and state legislators want to take credit for aiding, they might actually act on this, since we all know about their issue.
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