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Post by bolverk on Aug 8, 2008 5:09:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the site.
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Post by digger on Aug 8, 2008 10:14:13 GMT -5
So the Gov. is setting all these state workers back to min. wage. On the other hand we've got how many millions of illegals here in California that are rolling in free food, free medical care, housing subsidies, welfare, anchor baby cash & prizes.
Something is very wrong with this picture. Cut off all the aid to the illegals and use the save money to shore up the state coffers. The bonus being that the illegals will go find some other host to drain.
Prop. 187 anyone?
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Post by bolverk on Aug 10, 2008 9:22:09 GMT -5
So the Gov. is setting all these state workers back to min. wage. On the other hand we've got how many millions of illegals here in California that are rolling in free food, free medical care, housing subsidies, welfare, anchor baby cash & prizes. Something is very wrong with this picture. Cut off all the aid to the illegals and use the save money to shore up the state coffers. The bonus being that the illegals will go find some other host to drain. Prop. 187 anyone? If you recall, our federal friends, starting with that pesky ninth circuit court, made sure we could not do anything about the BOHICA concerning illegals. How do you oust circuit court judges? Impeachment is the only thing I can think of. Immigration is the responsibility of our congress. |
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Post by ferrous on Aug 10, 2008 10:49:21 GMT -5
It wasn't the Ninth District Court that killed Prop 187, it was then Gov. Gray Davis who refused to file an appeal.
In 1996 California (Att'y Gen. Dan Lungren) said that Prop 187 was not in conflict with federal law.
In September 1996 federal immigration law was enacted, and in 1997 Lungren asked Judge Pfaelzer for a summary dismissal. (The 1996 federal law included Sec. 133 - that local law enforcement can cooperate with the INS)
Judge Pfaelzer said NO to summary dismissal and ruled for plaintiffs; Lungren said he'll appeal.
Lungren appealed in 9th District Circuit Court in late 1997. FOR SIX MONTHS LUNGREN TOOK NO ACTION - IT SAT THERE. HE SHOULD HAVE MOVED THE CASE ALONG!
Then came the gubernatorial campaign of 1998, and Gray Davis was elected in November. The appeal process was still sitting silently in court because Lungren had not moved it along.
Davis was elected. The plaintiffs requested "mediation" in the 9th District Court, the court agreed to "mediation".
We know what happened then - Davis (who vehemently opposed Prop 187) "represented" FOR Prop 187. Neither the proponent of Prop 187 nor anyone else who co-sponsored Prop 187 was allowed in the bogus "mediation".
Governor Davis refused to allow the appeal to proceed and dropped the appeal, essentially KILLING PROP 187 against the will of the voters. This after having promised to support the appeal during his campaign.
Even the most vocal plaintiffs against Prop 187 said they were afraid that if it went to the U.S. Supreme Court it would be held to be constitutional, reversing Plyler v. Doe.
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Post by heckheckle on Jun 17, 2009 23:55:47 GMT -5
I've had many friends, throughout the years, of all political persuations. We never attacked
each other, physically, or verbally, and barely discussed politics except near Election Time.
we never started to swear at each other because we had a difference of opinion. We knew the issues and some may have electioneered, but none ever got as nasty to others such as I see on this forum.
Oh well.
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Post by heckheckle on Jun 19, 2009 23:13:32 GMT -5
Now, now, Children, lets not overdo the smite "Thing".
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Post by The New Guy on Jun 20, 2009 1:07:13 GMT -5
dude, what friggin' planet are you on?  |
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Jun 24, 2009 17:51:57 GMT -5
dude, what friggin' [glow=red,2,300]planet[/glow] are you on? Smite? |
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Post by Mink on Jun 24, 2009 20:51:39 GMT -5
Heckheckle wrote: [/size][/quote] Heckheckle, thanks for posting this reminder that friends or even people with different political views should be able to discuss in a civilized manner. Although it may go unnoticed by many, by choice or not, let it be known, it has been pointed out. Reminders aren't only for kids  |
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