Flip Flop, Don't Let My Popularity Drop

[bolverk]

Obama, being his fish out of water, flip flopping self.

I support off shore drilling

[saunterelle]

It's called a compromising to get something accomplished. Bush should try it sometime!

[harpman1]

Spinelessness & pandering; keys to compromise.

The One will say or do anything to get elected.

Note the purging from his website of the defeatist pre-surge comments.

[bolverk]

saunterelle, I should smite you for your statement, but I am not going to this time.

Bush tried compromise after compromise, all he got was stalling, appointments held up in committee and rhetoric. Get your facts straight.

[The Big Dog]

Aug 2, 2008 18:53:44 GMT -5 saunterelle said:

It's called a compromising to get something accomplished. Bush should try it sometime!

Like No Child Left Behind? That seems to have worked out really well for him, hasn't it? Need I provide further examples where the President has "comprimised" with Democrat perfidy resulting from it?

Now since Saunterelle dragged the thread off topic with a baseless Bush bash, let's drag it right back on, shall we?

Both candidates are flopping like dying fish on this particular issue. In many ways I can't say I blame them. This is an issue that is seriously in flux with the American people as the erstewhile "Silent Majority" is rapidly making known just how disenchanted it is with the Green agenda on point because of what it is costing us.

Criticizing either Obama or McCain on this singular issue without hammering the other simply isn't fair, nor does it help advance the debate. Madame Speaker is going to start finding that out from her caucus as they are all at home for the next few weeks and are already getting their teeth kicked in by their constituents for her ham fisted railroad job the other day, backed up by her ridiculous posturing on ABC this past Sunday.

She could wind up costing her team a few seats, and Mr. Obama the election, if she's not careful.

[jgaffney]

To change one's mind in the face of new information is not flip-flopping. When McCain opposed an expansion of offshore drilling, what did oil cost at that time? Also, given the horse-trading that is stock in trade in the Senate, we have to find the bill that McCain voted against to see what the real issue was.

Obama the Neophyte hasn't been around long enough to experience that. In fact, of the three years that he's been in the Senate, he has spent two years running for president.

[The Big Dog]

Geez I expected Saunterelle to be in here kicking my ass with both feet, instead there are crickets.

While I don't necessarily disagree with your point Gaffney, if McCain could change his mind based on new information then in fairness so could Obama as a litmus test for experience isn't a mandate for the ability to reason.

McCain was one of only six Republican senators to vote against ANWR. Let's go back in the memory bank to February and this piece by Hugh Hewitt.

There in a sentence is another example of the dynamic that drives conservatives away from John McCain. Not only do the vast majority of Republicans support exploration in ANWR, they also deeply resent the idea that such a position is on a par with a proposal to strip mine Yellowstone. But here is John McCain comparing exploration in ANWR to drilling in the Everglades or the Grand Ganyon. It isn't just that McCain's position is opposite that of the Republican party. It is also that he uses the harshest rhetoric of the left to convey that disagreement.

Bill Kristol called McCain's latest blast at a GOP base position shot "gratuitous," and he's right. Every Republican Congressman or Senator who supported exploration in ANWR can look forward to an attack ad arguing that John McCain has condemned their vote as the equivalent of drilling in the Grand Canyon.

And then there is his voting record on Energy and Oil.

So many more reasons why, as a conservative, I am really pissed that he is going to be the Republican nominee.