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Post by bolverk on Aug 4, 2008 6:01:43 GMT -5
I think your organization should be outlawed for the advocates of violence that you are. Your fascist stance on Animal Rights is unrealistic in a world where animals do not respect each others rights. Humans are not herbivores, they are omnivores. We subsist on both meat and vegetation.
They day you have balls enough to address me face to face is the day I will begin to have some semblance of respect for you. Until that day, I hope you suffer greatly at the hands of law enforcement.
And Jerry Vlasak, you should loose your right to practice medicine in this country. There are plenty of trauma surgeons, you should have to disclose your ALF position every time you offer to pick up a scalpel. I hold you in the highest level of disdain. You have no humanity in your soul. The actions you claim are okay and are perpetrated by those of your ilk should be visited upon you ten fold.
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Post by saunterelle on Aug 4, 2008 16:34:10 GMT -5
Lets include Rescue America, Army of God, The Christian Gallary, and other groups that promote violence against abortion clinics and the good doctors who work there. There is no excuse or justification for this sort of violent action.
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Post by harpman1 on Aug 4, 2008 17:17:11 GMT -5
And the Ku Klux Klan.
And their Grand Kleagle Sen. Robert Byrd- D., W. Va.
And 1/2 billion Muslims.
And the "good doctors" that slaughter millions of innocent babies annually.
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Post by saunterelle on Aug 4, 2008 17:49:39 GMT -5
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Post by harpman1 on Aug 4, 2008 18:02:19 GMT -5
That's the 50% of Muslims worldwide that adhere to Wahabbism.
Surely you recall them; the planes; the beheadings; the IED's.
Those Muslims.
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Post by saunterelle on Aug 4, 2008 19:54:13 GMT -5
Way to lump. It would be like lumping all Christians in with the domestic terrorists who bomb abortion clinics. Foolish and obviously untrue.
And for your information Wahhabism does not make up 50% of Muslims worldwide. It is the dominant form of Islam in Saudi Arabia and Qatar but that hardly scratches the surface when compared with Muslims around the world.
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Post by harpman1 on Aug 4, 2008 20:02:29 GMT -5
How many people have your favorite terrorists, the dozen or so whackos who justify their hatred by claiming to be Christians, beheaded?
How many innocent bystanders have they blown up?
One? Two? Ten?
Now let's compare that to Islam.
There is no intellectually honest or defensible comparison that can be drawn between the two, and you know it.
If you hate or distrust Christians, just say so.
I don't hate Muslims, but I do not trust them.
Read the Koran to find out why.
Or, just read the paper.
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Post by bolverk on Aug 4, 2008 21:47:35 GMT -5
Lets include Rescue America, Army of God, The Christian Gallary, and other groups that promote violence against abortion clinics and the good doctors who work there. There is no excuse or justification for this sort of violent action. Wow, I had to exalt you.
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Post by saunterelle on Aug 5, 2008 10:37:11 GMT -5
How many people have your favorite terrorists, the dozen or so whackos who justify their hatred by claiming to be Christians, beheaded? How many innocent bystanders have they blown up? One? Two? Ten? Now let's compare that to Islam. There is no intellectually honest or defensible comparison that can be drawn between the two, and you know it. If you hate or distrust Christians, just say so. I don't hate Muslims, but I do not trust them. Read the Koran to find out why. Or, just read the paper. I don't hate or distrust Christians nor Muslims. Why you do not trust Muslims is beyond me. Actually, it probably has to do with the misinformation received from your right-wing sources. You say "read the Koran?" Have you read the Bible? It contains just as much violence, bloodshed, and mistreatment of women. Have you forgotten the crusades? Please explain what in the Koran makes you distrust all Muslims. Until the September 11, 2001 attacks, the Oklahoma City bombing was the deadliest act of terror against the U.S. on American soil. Timothy McVeigh was Catholic. Do you no longer trust Catholics? "Wow, I had to exalt you." Thanks bolverk ;D
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Post by The New Guy on Aug 5, 2008 10:44:43 GMT -5
timothy mcvey, the twisted bastard that he was, did not act in the name of religion.
remember that while not all muslims are terrorists, almost all terrorists are muslims!
consider yourself smitten.
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Post by harpman1 on Aug 5, 2008 10:55:40 GMT -5
Finding equivalency between one whacked-out former Catholic & thousands of Muslim terror acts is, at best, a stretch. At worst, it is intentional intellectual dishonesty.
The Old Testament is the precursor to the Christian portion of the Bible. Centuries have passed since the rules stated therein have been exhorted as appropriate to behavior in a Western Democracy.
The "they do it too" argument is a self-imposed blinder to the actions & sentiments of hundreds of millions of Muslims living today.
Listen to the sermons in the madrasses worldwide. They sound a lot more like Jeremiah Wright than John Paul II.
If Bushitler & Cheneyburton worry you more than Islamic Jihad, then you have my sympathies. Blindness is a terrible disability. Undirected, there's no telling into the path of which suicide bomber you may wander.
Muslim terror is real. Christian terror is a red herring.
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Post by saunterelle on Aug 5, 2008 11:36:24 GMT -5
"Muslim terror is real. Christian terror is a red herring."
No, they are both real and equally disturbing. Your myopia and blind patriotism is what hinders you.
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