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Post by bolverk on Aug 4, 2008 6:39:33 GMT -5
Okay, I am taking a new position. I am not going to vote for either party, ever again. Each of them are opposite sides of the same coin. Why would I vote to keep the same problems and ideas?
It is time for a change. I say that change should start with a new election law for California that allows us to vote for None of the Above as an actual ballot choice, and/or allows us to write in our choice.
By sticking with the two parties we have, we are not really being given a choice or offered any change at all. Each side will only change enough to get elected. And there by maintain the status quo.
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Post by saunterelle on Aug 4, 2008 12:50:12 GMT -5
How about a parliamentary system of partial representation.
That way, if the Greens, libretarians, etc. get a percentage of the vote they will have representation in government.
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Aug 4, 2008 13:44:08 GMT -5
Bolverk, I feel exactly the same way, so much so that I exalt your post! I am disgusted with the whole thing...
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Post by Mink on Aug 4, 2008 15:29:44 GMT -5
Bravo! Both of you, bloverk & saunterelle may have something that will work~ great brainstorming, so how do we go about getting this into action??
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Post by harpman1 on Aug 4, 2008 17:20:50 GMT -5
Parliamentary Govt.
Just like England.
The nation we revolted against 232 years ago.
Sorry, I'll take the U.S. Constitution, thank you.
I do not want to emulate Old Europe in any way whatsoever.
They will soon be essentially an Islamic vassal-continent.
Some goal!
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Post by saunterelle on Aug 4, 2008 17:51:23 GMT -5
Yep. Even if there's logic to an idea, it has to fit within our "all or nothing" ideals.
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Post by harpman1 on Aug 4, 2008 18:04:47 GMT -5
A Parliamentary system would constitute a complete Europification of our system.
Here's an idea!
If you want to live under one, move to Europe!
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Post by subdjoe on Aug 4, 2008 20:12:49 GMT -5
As much as I hate to say it, the real problem isn't with the capons we keep putting into office and reelecting over and over again. The source of the problem is an uneducated and apathetic electorate. We (this is a general "we" as in the bulk of the American people) don't know the Constituition. We don't care about the Constitutuion. We believe the Big Lie that the State is our friend and that it can "empower" us.
We all need to hold the feet of our public servents to the Constitutional fire and measure everthing they promise and every thing they do against what it allows the government to do.
The schools need to start teaching what the Constitution says, starting in junior high. Maybe use it in English classes to teach the elegance of the English language. Learn to parse sentences from that. Devote a good portion of the US history classes to the Constitution.
Only when the electorate cares more about the goings on in Washington and the Capitols of the several state than the goings on of some no talent bimbette in Hollywood will things get better.
Meanwhile we need to vote the capons out after one term. Especially the Senate.
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Post by bolverk on Aug 4, 2008 21:42:36 GMT -5
How about a parliamentary system of partial representation. That way, if the Greens, libretarians, etc. get a percentage of the vote they will have representation in government. I am not looking for a new form of government, but instead people who really have the guts to follow our constitution. |
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Post by bolverk on Aug 4, 2008 21:44:35 GMT -5
I agree subdjoe, I agree.
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Post by crossride on Aug 5, 2008 12:28:36 GMT -5
Okay, I am taking a new position. I am not going to vote for either party, ever again. Each of them are opposite sides of the same coin. Why would I vote to keep the same problems and ideas? It is time for a change. I say that change should start with a new election law for California that allows us to vote for None of the Above as an actual ballot choice, and/or allows us to write in our choice. By sticking with the two parties we have, we are not really being given a choice or offered any change at all. Each side will only change enough to get elected. And there by maintain the status quo. Problem is the cost of repeated elections because lets face it, who would ever defeat "None of the Above"? |
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Post by bolverk on Aug 6, 2008 22:46:58 GMT -5
That is the real question. Neither of our two current candidates from the two primary parties, that is for sure.
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