Infomercial

[subdjoe]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk

Several of us here have been saying much the same for years.

[saunterelle]

Interesting. He's surely passionate but I have to disagree with many of his assertions.

For instance, he is up in arms that a small amount our tax money is spent on emergency health care for illegal immigrants but doesn't mention the unjust war that is costing us 1 trillion dollars.

He complains that bills are printed in Spanish and English but does not acknowledge the failure to secure the border during the past 8 years of Republican rule.

He fears that a multi-cultural society will be our downfall yet Brazil, the most culturally diverse country in the world, is also one of the world's fastest growing economies.

To sum it up, he is using Bush's fear mongering tactics to try and scare people into keeping themselves isolated from the outside world. He says to "call your representative every day, or every hour if need be." How about giving us a fact-based argument to persuade our representatives instead of a strategy that tries to annoy them into submission.

[harpman1]

Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush.
Bush, Bush, Bush.
Bush, Bush.
Bush.

You could just xerox your posts, you know.

They are always the same.

[saunterelle]

I said a lot more in that post than Bush, Bush, Bush. Yes, I talk about the Bush Administration often because Bush is our CURRENT PRESIDENT.

[harpman1]

The people of the U.S.(with the possible exception of the Obamalites)have no desire to be Brazil.

Neither does most of S. America, as they are not flocking by the tens of millions to immigrate there.

Multi-culti signs, ballots, phone systems, & street signs appeal only to those too lazy or uninterested to learn English: the language of America.

Americans don't want to be isolated from the world, just uniquely American.

If that were not a desirable thing to be, why would millions risk death to get here?

Methinks thee speaks from both sides of thy mouth.

[mrroqout]

$397,468,796,971

Is the cost for social services to illegals since 1996.....

That's your "Small amount" of money Saunterelle......

[saunterelle]

Is it? Where did you get that figure? Obviously you're using a figure that include costs associated with children who were born here and are therefore considered U.S. citizens. Deduct those costs and you'll find that the number will shrink by more than half.

[mrroqout]

No it wont..that is the data minus those "Anchor Babies".

"Obviously" you ASSUME you know it all..but you don't.

Here's more for you to chew on:

www.immigrationcounters.com/


And even IF it did shrink to TWO HUNDRED BILLION is that a "Small amount" of money...bwaaaahahahaaa...

[The New Guy]

Aug 14, 2008 19:00:17 GMT -5 saunterelle said:

Interesting. He's surely passionate but I have to disagree with many of his assertions.

For instance, he is up in arms that a small amount our tax money is spent on emergency health care for illegal immigrants but doesn't mention the unjust war that is costing us 1 trillion dollars.

aside from the tax money the real pain is the non-tax money it costs in higher insurance premiums and hospital bills. why do you supposed 2 aspirin at kaiser are billed at $50 or more?

and exactly why is it an "unjust" war? what makes it so? please explain without saying anything like bush lied. and tell me what is a "just" war?

He complains that bills are printed in Spanish and English but does not acknowledge the failure to secure the border during the past 8 years of Republican rule.

or the previous 8 years of clinton rule, or the 4 of bush 41, or the 8 of reagan, or carter, ford, nixon, etc. or the 40 year reign the democrats held in congress. but of course for you history began on jan. 20, 2001.

He fears that a multi-cultural society will be our downfall yet Brazil, the most culturally diverse country in the world, is also one of the world's fastest growing economies.

what does economy have to do with it? did he ever say that a multi-culti country will go broke? the wine analogy at the end must have gone right over your head. you may want to rewind and view it again.

To sum it up, he is using Bush's fear mongering tactics to try and scare people into keeping themselves isolated from the outside world.

i'm far more afraid of what progressives are doing to this country from within than any enemy outside our borders. dems are the original party of fearmongering. ever listen to an obama speech?

do you ever get tired of having your posts ripped to shreds like this? what a glutton for punishment, you are. ;D

[subdjoe]

Saunterelle, can you refute his points with something verifiable? Daily Kos, etc. doesn't count.

I eagerly await your long, detailed post. With lots of links to verifiable sources.

added - you seem to accept the fear mongering of the likes of Mikey Moore, Al Gore, Queen Nancy, Barry, Hillary, and other socialists without question.

[jgaffney]

Nah, he'd rather argue about anchor babies than address the main points of the Infomercial.

[saunterelle]

No time today. I will when I catch up.