Post by ferrous on Jun 1, 2008 9:47:33 GMT -5
There is no question that the surge in troops helped.
It should have been done years early when the situation in policing the country first got out of hand.
One of President Bush's major mistakes was not having the force he needed in securing the country once Suddam's government fell.
December, 2005:
"The idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is just plain wrong," Democratic Party Chair Howard Dean told a San Antonio radio show on Monday.
2007
Rep Nancy Pelosi;
But as the new minority leader, Pelosi knew she could not impose her views on her caucus and instead initially took the position that it was the Republicans' war, for the Republicans to fix. Privately, however, she spent months conferring with Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., a decorated Vietnam War veteran and prominent voice on military matters, who had voted for the war but was now souring on it. Pelosi knew that her voice would not be as credible as Murtha's.
The two planned Murtha's surprise turnaround a year ago, when he demanded immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops. Two weeks later, Pelosi followed his lead.
Should the Democrats win in November, Pelosi said, their new majority will push for the immediate start of a phased withdrawal of troops, to be completed by the end of 2007.
February 13, 2007 05:29 PM EST
Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., center, flanked by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of Calif., left, and Rep. David Hobson, R-Ohio. (AP Photo/Lawrence Jackson)
Top House Democrats, working in concert with anti-war groups, have decided against using congressional power to force a quick end to U.S. involvement in Iraq, and instead will pursue a slow-bleed strategy designed to gradually limit the administration's options.
Led by Rep. John P. Murtha, D-Pa., and supported by several well-funded anti-war groups, the coalition's goal is to limit or sharply reduce the number of U.S. troops available for the Iraq conflict, rather than to openly cut off funding for the war itself.
Thursday, February 22, 2007
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Dick Cheney opened a transpacific spat over Iraq on Wednesday, with the San Francisco Democrat calling on President Bush to referee.
Cheney, in Japan as part of a weeklong swing through Asia, threw the first stone when he harshly criticized plans by Pelosi and Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., to make it difficult or impossible for the president to send an additional 21,500 troops to Iraq.
"I think if we were to do what Speaker Pelosi and Congressman Murtha are suggesting, all we will do is validate the al Qaeda strategy,'' the vice president told ABC News. "The al Qaeda strategy is to break the will of the American people ... try to persuade us to throw in the towel, and then they win because we quit.''
An angry Pelosi slashed back at Cheney, complaining that the vice president stepped over the line by questioning her patriotism, especially while on a foreign trip, and vowed to call Bush to complain.
April 20, 2007:
WASHINGTON - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday the war in Iraq is "lost," triggering an angry backlash by Republicans, who said the top Democrat had turned his back on the troops. The bleak assessment - the most pointed yet from Reid - came as the House voted 215-199 to uphold legislation ordering troops out of Iraq next year.
August 1, 2007:
Senator Obama:
"I introduced a plan in January that would have already started bringing our troops out of Iraq, with a goal of removing all combat brigades by March 31, 2008. If the President continues to veto this plan, then ending this war will be my first priority when I take office.
The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
"There is no military solution in Iraq."
As President, I would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid to Pakistan conditional, and I would make our conditions clear: Pakistan must make substantial progress in closing down the training camps, evicting foreign fighters, and preventing the Taliban from using Pakistan as a staging area for attacks in Afghanistan.
I understand that President Musharraf has his own challenges. But let me make this clear. There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will.
November, 2007:
Rep. Jack Murtha, House Democrats’ “point man” on war-funding . . .
. . . today dismissed U.S. military gains in Iraq and vowed to tighten the purse strings until President Bush accepts a pullout plan. ”Look at all the people that have been displaced, all the [lost] oil production, unemployment, all those type of things,” said Rep. John P. Murtha, chairman of House Appropriations defense subcommittee. “We can’t win militarily.”
March 28, 2008:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Hillary Clinton charged on Monday the Iraq war may end up costing Americans $1 trillion and further strain the economy, as she made her case for a prompt U.S. troop pullout from a war "we cannot win."
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Just quite possibly, did the Democratic interference in President Bush trying to fight the war in Iraq, especially in 2007 when the fighting was the worst, cost US soldiers lives?
If the surge is working, and the US Military was held back in supplying additional troops by Anti-war advocates, wouldn’t some of the blood from our fallen soldiers be on the hands of these left wing pacifist as-holes?
Among those, our very own Rep. Woolsey and her comrade Rep. Lee and of course good old Cindy Sheehan is right at the forefront in obstructing the US Military from effectively waging this war.
How many other anti-war activists have US Soldiers blood on their hands?
It should have been done years early when the situation in policing the country first got out of hand.
One of President Bush's major mistakes was not having the force he needed in securing the country once Suddam's government fell.
December, 2005:
"The idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is just plain wrong," Democratic Party Chair Howard Dean told a San Antonio radio show on Monday.
2007
Rep Nancy Pelosi;
But as the new minority leader, Pelosi knew she could not impose her views on her caucus and instead initially took the position that it was the Republicans' war, for the Republicans to fix. Privately, however, she spent months conferring with Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., a decorated Vietnam War veteran and prominent voice on military matters, who had voted for the war but was now souring on it. Pelosi knew that her voice would not be as credible as Murtha's.
The two planned Murtha's surprise turnaround a year ago, when he demanded immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops. Two weeks later, Pelosi followed his lead.
Should the Democrats win in November, Pelosi said, their new majority will push for the immediate start of a phased withdrawal of troops, to be completed by the end of 2007.
February 13, 2007 05:29 PM EST
Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., center, flanked by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of Calif., left, and Rep. David Hobson, R-Ohio. (AP Photo/Lawrence Jackson)
Top House Democrats, working in concert with anti-war groups, have decided against using congressional power to force a quick end to U.S. involvement in Iraq, and instead will pursue a slow-bleed strategy designed to gradually limit the administration's options.
Led by Rep. John P. Murtha, D-Pa., and supported by several well-funded anti-war groups, the coalition's goal is to limit or sharply reduce the number of U.S. troops available for the Iraq conflict, rather than to openly cut off funding for the war itself.
Thursday, February 22, 2007
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Dick Cheney opened a transpacific spat over Iraq on Wednesday, with the San Francisco Democrat calling on President Bush to referee.
Cheney, in Japan as part of a weeklong swing through Asia, threw the first stone when he harshly criticized plans by Pelosi and Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., to make it difficult or impossible for the president to send an additional 21,500 troops to Iraq.
"I think if we were to do what Speaker Pelosi and Congressman Murtha are suggesting, all we will do is validate the al Qaeda strategy,'' the vice president told ABC News. "The al Qaeda strategy is to break the will of the American people ... try to persuade us to throw in the towel, and then they win because we quit.''
An angry Pelosi slashed back at Cheney, complaining that the vice president stepped over the line by questioning her patriotism, especially while on a foreign trip, and vowed to call Bush to complain.
April 20, 2007:
WASHINGTON - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday the war in Iraq is "lost," triggering an angry backlash by Republicans, who said the top Democrat had turned his back on the troops. The bleak assessment - the most pointed yet from Reid - came as the House voted 215-199 to uphold legislation ordering troops out of Iraq next year.
August 1, 2007:
Senator Obama:
"I introduced a plan in January that would have already started bringing our troops out of Iraq, with a goal of removing all combat brigades by March 31, 2008. If the President continues to veto this plan, then ending this war will be my first priority when I take office.
The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
"There is no military solution in Iraq."
As President, I would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid to Pakistan conditional, and I would make our conditions clear: Pakistan must make substantial progress in closing down the training camps, evicting foreign fighters, and preventing the Taliban from using Pakistan as a staging area for attacks in Afghanistan.
I understand that President Musharraf has his own challenges. But let me make this clear. There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will.
November, 2007:
Rep. Jack Murtha, House Democrats’ “point man” on war-funding . . .
. . . today dismissed U.S. military gains in Iraq and vowed to tighten the purse strings until President Bush accepts a pullout plan. ”Look at all the people that have been displaced, all the [lost] oil production, unemployment, all those type of things,” said Rep. John P. Murtha, chairman of House Appropriations defense subcommittee. “We can’t win militarily.”
March 28, 2008:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Hillary Clinton charged on Monday the Iraq war may end up costing Americans $1 trillion and further strain the economy, as she made her case for a prompt U.S. troop pullout from a war "we cannot win."
_______________________________
Just quite possibly, did the Democratic interference in President Bush trying to fight the war in Iraq, especially in 2007 when the fighting was the worst, cost US soldiers lives?
If the surge is working, and the US Military was held back in supplying additional troops by Anti-war advocates, wouldn’t some of the blood from our fallen soldiers be on the hands of these left wing pacifist as-holes?
Among those, our very own Rep. Woolsey and her comrade Rep. Lee and of course good old Cindy Sheehan is right at the forefront in obstructing the US Military from effectively waging this war.
How many other anti-war activists have US Soldiers blood on their hands?
