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Post by harpman1 on Sept 3, 2008 23:31:52 GMT -5
Those "Question Authority" bumper stickers didn't pan out that well after all.
Of course several criminals bombed abortion clinics. Criminal types tend to commit crimes. They can all be found in prisons, if they are still alive.
No honest correspondent from this planet could deny the fact that the consistent use of direct confrontational street protest has been taught as standard operating procedure and policy by the left for decades.
These are your brothers and sisters. They have been a prominent and welcome fixture within your party since 1968. You may not conveniently hurl them 'neath the bus at this late date.
You own them.
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Post by Mink on Sept 3, 2008 23:39:34 GMT -5
Those "Question Authority" bumper stickers didn't pan out that well after all. Of course several criminals bombed abortion clinics. Criminal types tend to commit crimes. They can all be found in prisons, if they are still alive. No honest correspondent from this planet could deny the fact that the consistent use of direct confrontational street protest has been taught as standard operating procedure and policy by the left for decades. These are your brothers and sisters. They have been a prominent and welcome fixture within your party since 1968. You may not conveniently hurl them 'neath the bus at this late date. You own them. Are you saying the Republicans that bombed abortion clinics are in prison, if they are still alive and that the right to protest and the freedom of speech originated in 1968 on? |
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Post by subdjoe on Sept 3, 2008 23:51:05 GMT -5
When and where was the last time that happened? Why does the date/location matter? It happened. Yeah, I guess we were wrong guys. EVERY time more than a dozen conservatives get together for a protest an abortion clinic gets bombed. We see it all the time in the papers - hardly a week goes by without a few being bombed. Yeah, right. Mink, I can't belive that you can't see the difference between a few isolated incidents and the regular ritual of mindless violence and destruction that just about any protest by liberals decends into. Did you notice in that vid posted by TNG that it was the leftists who resorted to violence? And then yelled for police when their victim fough back? That was not an atypical incident. It is fairly typical of how the left operates - shout down opposing opinions, attempt to destroy their message, then complain that they are being denied their rights. |
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Post by Mink on Sept 4, 2008 0:01:13 GMT -5
Why does the date/location matter? It happened. Yeah, I guess we were wrong guys. EVERY time more than a dozen conservatives get together for a protest an abortion clinic gets bombed. We see it all the time in the papers - hardly a week goes by without a few being bombed. Yeah, right. Mink, I can't belive that you can't see the difference between a few isolated incidents and the regular ritual of mindless violence and destruction that just about any protest by liberals decends into. Did you notice in that vid posted by TNG that it was the leftists who resorted to violence? And then yelled for police when their victim fough back? That was not an atypical incident. It is fairly typical of how the left operates - shout down opposing opinions, attempt to destroy their message, then complain that they are being denied their rights. Subdjoe, the fact that abortion clinics were bombed, is a "big" deal. The bombings weren't done in public view and although it has been awhile since the last bombing, doesn't excuse the action/s. Yes, I did watch the video TNG provided. I did mention that I didn't agree with their "style". |
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Post by subdjoe on Sept 4, 2008 0:01:33 GMT -5
TNG: "if only mom and dad would have whooped their asses on occasion when they were young." Most likely Mom & Dad informed them that they had the right to protest and the right to freedom of speech......not that I agree with the way they did it....... In which case the parents didn't teach them very well. Here is the First Amendment: " Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.Note the parts I put in bold since those are the parts that apply here. see the part about "right of the people peaceably to assemble?" Somehow that part gets ignored by the left. Ditto for the free exercise clause. I will note that the powerful and well financed anti[civil rights lobby which claims that since a well armed militia is mentioned as A reason for the right to keep and bear arms in the 2nd then it is the ONLY reason for it. Using that reasoning and being consistant, then the ONLY assembly, and such assembly must be PEACEABLE, which is protected is one that leads to a petition for redress of grievances. Yep, that is the ONLY reason given, so it must be the ONLY reason for any kind of assembly. |
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Post by Mink on Sept 4, 2008 0:04:06 GMT -5
I concur.
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Post by subdjoe on Sept 4, 2008 0:06:14 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess we were wrong guys. EVERY time more than a dozen conservatives get together for a protest an abortion clinic gets bombed. We see it all the time in the papers - hardly a week goes by without a few being bombed. Yeah, right. Mink, I can't belive that you can't see the difference between a few isolated incidents and the regular ritual of mindless violence and destruction that just about any protest by liberals decends into. Did you notice in that vid posted by TNG that it was the leftists who resorted to violence? And then yelled for police when their victim fough back? That was not an atypical incident. It is fairly typical of how the left operates - shout down opposing opinions, attempt to destroy their message, then complain that they are being denied their rights. Subdjoe, the fact that abortion clinics were bombed, is a "big" deal. The bombings weren't done in public view and although it has been awhile since the last bombing, doesn't excuse the action/s. Yes, I did watch the video TNG provided. I did mention that I didn't agree with their "style". Did you bother to note that I said that the thugs who bombed clinics should be strung up? Or that I had said that I wasn't excusing the bombings? No, of course you didn't. And, yet again, you are saying that a few isolated incidents is the same as the almost clockwork regular violence that is a characteristic of just about every sizeable leftist protest. |
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Post by subdjoe on Sept 4, 2008 0:13:01 GMT -5
Those "Question Authority" bumper stickers didn't pan out that well after all. Of course several criminals bombed abortion clinics. Criminal types tend to commit crimes. They can all be found in prisons, if they are still alive. No honest correspondent from this planet could deny the fact that the consistent use of direct confrontational street protest has been taught as standard operating procedure and policy by the left for decades. These are your brothers and sisters. They have been a prominent and welcome fixture within your party since 1968. You may not conveniently hurl them 'neath the bus at this late date. You own them. Are you saying the Republicans that bombed abortion clinics are in prison, if they are still alive and that the right to protest and the freedom of speech originated in 1968 on? Did you bother to read what harpman wrote? What part of "the consistent use of direct confrontational street protest has been taught as standard operating procedure and policy by the left for decades" did you have trouble understanding? The '68 reference was, I believe, to the leftist hooligans who threw riots, along with feces and plastic bags of urine, during the Dems convention in Chicago that year. Why don't we see any riots by conservatives? Why is it that conservatives can throw a protest march and the only reason that cops need to show up is to pull the leftists counter-protesters off of the conservatives? Come on, Mink, that is a fairly simple, direct question. Care to answer it without evasions, lies, half truths, or diversions? CAN you answer it without evasions, lies, half truths or diversions? |
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Post by The Big Dog on Sept 4, 2008 0:18:48 GMT -5
Why does the date/location matter? It happened. You're missing the point. When was the last time it happened? And how many times has it happened? Moral equivalency arguments need not apply. Bring fact. |
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Post by Mink on Sept 4, 2008 0:23:20 GMT -5
Subdjoe, the fact that abortion clinics were bombed, is a "big" deal. The bombings weren't done in public view and although it has been awhile since the last bombing, doesn't excuse the action/s. Yes, I did watch the video TNG provided. I did mention that I didn't agree with their "style". Did you bother to note that I said that the thugs who bombed clinics should be strung up? Or that I had said that I wasn't excusing the bombings? No, of course you didn't. And, yet again, you are saying that a few isolated incidents is the same as the almost clockwork regular violence that is a characteristic of just about every sizeable leftist protest. I am saying that I don't agree with violent protest as I don't agree with bombing abortion clinics. Myself, I would have marched in a peaceful protest as demonstrated by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. |
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Post by harpman1 on Sept 4, 2008 0:59:10 GMT -5
Republicans bombed clinics? In which universe?
Remember, we're talking Republicans, not Muslims.
How are abortion clinics part of an argument? Why were they mentioned?
The protesters in question are there now. Today.
When did Republicans bomb clinics? Must the bombers be mis-described as Republicans 'cuz you figure they all want to anyway?
This is not a tennis court where each serve must be batted back, it is a discussion forum.
Discussion, not deception, please.
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