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Post by subdjoe on Sept 10, 2008 23:35:09 GMT -5
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Post by jgaffney on Sept 11, 2008 0:01:54 GMT -5
First, learn to play a bugle.
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Post by Mink on Sept 11, 2008 0:34:51 GMT -5
That is a great idea!! My uncle, who fought in WWII, had a bugler at his funeral along with the 21 gun salute. This is a good cause for the vets to hear them while still living.
It's amazing the muscles used around the mouth to create a wonderful sound. Bravo!
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Post by subdjoe on Sept 11, 2008 7:55:29 GMT -5
GRUMBLE. It WASN'T a 21 gun salute. It was a 3 volly salute. Sorry, one of my many pet peeves. A 21 Gun salute is done by artillery, one piece at a time. If done by a ship entering a foreign harbor it may be returned gun for gun by a shore battery. Here are a few links that explain it a bit better: www.arlingtoncemetery.net/customs.htmen.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-volley_saluteWhen my dads ashes were placed into the crypt the Corps provided a color guard, an honor guard, and a musician. The musician played Taps on a cornet rather than a bugle or trumpet. Damn, that was nice. But I had to explain to the SFC in charge of the detail that they were NOT firing a 21 gun salute, but the traditional 3 volly salute.
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Sept 11, 2008 8:44:06 GMT -5
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Post by subdjoe on Sept 11, 2008 10:51:57 GMT -5
Thanks for the link, JMO. I think Bugles Across America is trying to get enough people so things like that are not necessary. I'm not sure how I feel about a "bugle" that plays a recording. It just seems very wrong to me. My opinion on it is that you might as well be honest and just use the CD player. Or, just fire the vollys and forget the music. Let the silence after the shots be the tribute.
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Post by The Big Dog on Sept 11, 2008 11:07:24 GMT -5
More on gun salutes and firing partiesA firing party of rifles (guns are on ships or get dragged around by truck, you know) may be any number of three up to seven. The significance is of the number of volleys, which is three. And that number is always fired regardless of the number of riflemen. A gun salute is fired one tube at a time, never in volley. There is, as well, an order of precedence in gun salutes in the United States, and many other countries as well.
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Sept 11, 2008 12:32:51 GMT -5
subdjoe, according to my parents (they are BOTH involved in the Marine Corp League) it isn't so much how TAPS is delivered, but the symbolic gesture, respect and nostalgia that it represents. My parents have told me on several occasions that before TAPS is finished playing there isn't a dry eye in the place. I realize it might mean more if a person were really playing, but I think for the most part the pseudo bugler works for most people who attend the memorials.
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Post by The Big Dog on Sept 11, 2008 14:23:46 GMT -5
According to some I know, perhaps the most eloquent and moving ceremonies involving a gun salute and Taps are done at Texas A & M university.
The first is "Silver Taps" to honor any and every member of the corps who dies during their period of enrollment.
The other is Muster, which happens every April.
The keynote speaker in 2000 summed up the Aggie bond when he said, "'we're here (tonight) to pledge that none of you will be forgotten as long as there are two Aggies left in the world.'"
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Post by bolverk on Sept 11, 2008 15:56:25 GMT -5
My most honorable duty, while in the military, was to be on funeral detail. We were called into service, and I was one of the seven riflemen who gave the 21 gun salute. It was a solemn duty, which I exercised with great pride in honor of fallen soldiers.
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