Flight 93 Shanksville

[Joe Cocker]

We as a family were there about 2007. Listen to the news report at 15 seconds the true report.

[sonnypie]

It just never happened.
Flight 93 was abducted by Alien spaceships.
The hole was made by "Blue Ice" (with brown highlights).

[Joe Cocker]

Strangest "Plane Crash" Ever

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posted by spooked at 12:59 PM
Saturday, October 24, 2009
The Cartwheel Explanation for the Flight 93 Crash

Sounds pretty bogus-- and pretty much nonsensical:


Somehow I think a plane going over 500 mph, hitting wing first, is suddenly going to flop over and produce this crater:

GOOGLE: 9/11 : The Shanksville Files Vol III : Viola Saylor in the first minute the plane was upside down.

[Joe Cocker]

[edit on 28/12/08 by LaBTop]

I have listened out a few more times to Viola's interview from the opening post, and this is what comes out of it as the basics:

She first heard a deafening roar coming her way, standing in her back door, looking north, then she saw a big passenger plane with a row of windows, flying towards her at approx. 100 feet high (30 meters), as if it would hit her. The plane flew upside-down, she thinks, because the fins of the tail part were under the plane.
She also describes it as having the blue line along the belly in the wrong place, the silver top side was now down and the blue line was on top, that's another reason she thinks it flew upside-down.
It passed her 30 meters above her head, and then was out of sight at the other side of her house, continuing its path somewhere along the right and then the left side of the south going lane of Lambertsville Road.

She went in the house with her sister, who was speechless but also saw the same plane, and the sister left the house shortly after. Then Viola went to her porch, about 5 to 10 minutes later, and sees a new plane coming to her, but now from the side of the crash crater, the south side. This plane was "bigger, white, with two kinds of eyeballs on top of this plane" and flying medium low. The fact that she described it as bigger as 93 and military-like with swept-back wings is amazing. It will be difficult to find a picture of such kind of plane which she could recognize. If we find one she does recognize, that will be an interesting day.

Right after this bigger one flying to the north, a littler, white or silver plane came flying by at a higher altitude, coming from the opposite direction, so from north to south.

Her sister can be interviewed? The scrap yard workers can be re-interviewed, not by newspaper journalists, but by independent reporters?
These should be the most interesting ones, since they could say if the plane was still that low, about circa 100 feet, 30 meters, above the ground, before it dived in the ground with one wing tip, and 2/3th buried itself in the soft soil, and 1/3rd propelled itself into the woods. That's what Wally Miller, the local coroner who identified the victim remains, was told what happened.
That would mean that not the triangular empty clearing in the tree line across the crash site was the place where the 1/3rd of the plane was propelled to, but the thin area to the right, just above the first house with the white roof to be seen in my above Google-Earth crash site picture.

www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread421852/pg1#pid5534743

[Joe Cocker]

It's the eighth house to the western left of that junction, on the north side of Pompey Road.
Now you can visualize for yourself how everyone was positioned when they saw that plane, and at which heights as reported by all.
Viola's reported height fits exactly with the NY Times interviewed witness just north of her house, who saw it fly 100 to 200 feet high (34 to 68 m). She saw it just above the top of her oak tree in her backyard.

Btw, Lee Purbaugh was a former Marine, and worked for his second day at the scrapyard.
A plane flying at 1.4 km high looks as if it is an inch wide, between your fingers.
A plane flying at treetop level looks as big as it really is. No misinterpretation possible between both heights.


Now the witness saying the airliner was about 100 about tree top flipped over on it's back and crashed.

This is about 45 minutes all you need is less than ten. Then play the youtube stuff.

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4294299673604153311&ei=gilSSfbHAZj8qwKv26S1DA&q=viola+saylor&hl=en





Found this.

it was a cruise missile...the FBI came to push the official story of UA93 crashing in PA..that hole in the ground was there already before the "crash"...the other plane was the recon plane to make sure the missile went in the right place

www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread421852/pg9#pid9228633.

[Joe Cocker]

Found this

Weedwhacker, I remember you writing in this thread that an FDR and CVR are not possible to falsify, because of the myriad of data to be altered.
I answered you that I remembered one case we discussed at this forum many years ago, where it was discovered that the black boxes (in this case orange) were switched by an air crash investigator on the scene, to later on to be able to blame the pilot for the crash, while in fact the new Airbus fly-by-wire computer system was the cause of the crash.

The crook and his bosses did not notice that a photographer took some pictures of him with the originally found black boxes standing beside his legs in a hilly, woody area at the crash site.
The later shown boxes were clearly not the same!
It took ten years to get that proof out, showing that real concerned Truthers their stamina and endurance is not to be underestimated.

And do you really think that America is still ruled by democratic leaders?
You obviously are ruled for many decades already by the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned for in his farewell speech.

And all these power hungry creatures on Capitol Hill are stooges, inserted to fool the overwhelmingly dumbed down populace of the USA.
They don't need the obvious clever part of the populace to be afraid of, since the dumb part still outnumbers them.

JC thinks we have a winner here!

[Joe Cocker]

What is in all of this is stuff one woman saw the airliner from her back porch turning to the upside down position as low as tree top level and crashed about 15 seconds later.

Did she feel it hit no! Later in the year in her attic it was messed up as the house must had been shaken.

A junk yard worker saw the airliner upside down about 60 feet above the ground and it crash.

Now before the crash there was a fiberglass drone that has flying north over the road as this woman was traveling on and turned right over the tree tops under power lines. She never knew that a airliner went down until latter. ( a drone) smooth white surface)

With the passenger airliner upside down at a hundred feet above the ground going straight down doesn't really make sense. Being that low there should be skid marks not straight down.

Then another report I had never heard was the electric power was turned off, and the land line phones, didn't understand if they shut down cell phones too. (must had)

Cell phone records show that the phones on the plane were still on, the backrest phones were still were working as being on as records show. STRANGE

Complete lock down as they had to stay in their homes or farms for several days.