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Post by The Big Dog on Sept 27, 2008 11:47:58 GMT -5
At one point in the debate Senator McCain noted the fallen soldier bracelet he wears and told us all why. Not to be outdone, Senator Obama said he did too and that becomes the story.
Not a whole lot more that need be said than that.
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Post by The Big Dog on Sept 28, 2008 20:03:38 GMT -5
And now the plot thickens... from American Thinker comes this latest tidbit.
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Rick Moran
File this one under "If John McCain had pulled something like this the media would have..." (Fill in the blank.)
Apparently, the family of the dead soldier whose name Obama wears on a bracelet (a name he had trouble remembering during the debate) told him to stop wearing the bracelet because they didn't want to draw any more attention to themselves.
Speaking on a Wisconsin Public Radio show a few months ago, Brian Jopek, father of Ryan Jopek who lost his life to a roadside bomb in 2006, said his wife was surprised that Obama was still wearing the bracelet even after the family told him to take it off but didn't want to make a big deal of it because she supported his candidacy.
A transcript courtesy of Newsbusters:
Brian Jopek: Because of some of the negative feedback she's gotten on the Internet, you know Internet blogs, you know people accusing her of... or accusing Obama of trying to get votes doing it... and that sort of thing.
Radio Host Moberg: Yeah
Jopek: She has turned down any subsequent interviews with the media because she just didn't want it to get turned into something that it wasn't. She had told me in an email that she had asked, actually asked Mr. Obama to not wear the bracelet any more at any of his public appearances. Which I don't think he's...
Moberg: It has been a while since he's brought it up.
Jopek: Right. But, the other night I was watching the news and he was on, uh, speaking somewhere and he was still wearing it on his right wrist. I could see it on his right wrist. So, that's his own choice. I mean that's something Barack Obama, that's a choice that he continues to wear it despite Tracy asking him not to... Because she is a Barack Obama supporter and she didn't want to do anything to sabotage his campaign, so, if he's still wearing the bracelet then, uh, that of course is entirely up to him.[/quote]
So this begs the question... did Senator Obama simply forget the wishes of the family, or did he outright ignore them to have the prop ready as counterpoint had Senator McCain mentioned his bracelet?
Either way, none of this makes Mr. Obama look like he has a lot of depth.
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Post by Mink on Oct 1, 2008 22:26:10 GMT -5
It seems Obama has respectfully honored a fallen hero by wearing the bracelet. I found a link that tells another point of view on the thought: www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080928/obama-bracelet/Quote: Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that Obama remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb. Jopek criticized Internet reports suggesting Obama, D-Ill., exploited her son for political purposes. "I don't understand how people can take that and turn it into some garbage on the Internet," she said. another snippet: "I think these bracelets should be looked upon as an honor that both candidates wear them to respect the troops," Jopek said. "My request to both of them is that they honor the troops by lifting the conversation to the issues, and that they continue to live up to the standards our military deserves." ________________________________________________ On to the issues...... |
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Post by saunterelle on Oct 2, 2008 13:12:27 GMT -5
It seems Obama has respectfully honored a fallen hero by wearing the bracelet. I found a link that tells another point of view on the thought: www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080928/obama-bracelet/Quote: Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that Obama remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb. Jopek criticized Internet reports suggesting Obama, D-Ill., exploited her son for political purposes. "I don't understand how people can take that and turn it into some garbage on the Internet," she said. another snippet: "I think these bracelets should be looked upon as an honor that both candidates wear them to respect the troops," Jopek said. "My request to both of them is that they honor the troops by lifting the conversation to the issues, and that they continue to live up to the standards our military deserves." ________________________________________________ On to the issues...... Thank you for posting this Mink. Too many outright lies are repeated on this board. It seems like no one is interested in knowing the truth about a situation before spewing something that fits their side of the debate. |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 2, 2008 14:28:52 GMT -5
You know, I personally find any bracelet turned over to a candidate as a political show to be appalling. Just because someone's mother supports Obama or McCain does not mean their child did. I find it rather presumptuous on many levels.
And, suanterelle, they are not outright lies. The truth about the situation is well known. She did ask Obama not to wear the bracelet, but not because she did not support him. She was pleased that it did not get politicized though, since he did decide to wear it. Which was her concern, and the reason she asked him to not wear it. I saw the interview with her.
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Post by bolverk on Oct 2, 2008 14:30:21 GMT -5
At least when McCain wears a bracelet, he knows what the troops have been through.
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Post by subdjoe on Oct 2, 2008 20:21:05 GMT -5
At least when McCain wears a bracelet, he knows what the troops have been through. And he isn't doing it for political reasons. Remember the scene in "Rennaisance Man" where DiVito is called before the base commander, says his only involvement with Viet Nam was a march in the rain carrying a sign with the name of a dead soldier. He is asked "Do you remeber the name of that soldier?" One of the best lines in the movie. |
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Post by Mink on Oct 2, 2008 23:00:32 GMT -5
It seems Obama has respectfully honored a fallen hero by wearing the bracelet. I found a link that tells another point of view on the thought: www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080928/obama-bracelet/Quote: Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that Obama remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb. Jopek criticized Internet reports suggesting Obama, D-Ill., exploited her son for political purposes. "I don't understand how people can take that and turn it into some garbage on the Internet," she said. another snippet: "I think these bracelets should be looked upon as an honor that both candidates wear them to respect the troops," Jopek said. "My request to both of them is that they honor the troops by lifting the conversation to the issues, and that they continue to live up to the standards our military deserves." ________________________________________________ On to the issues...... Thank you for posting this Mink. Too many outright lies are repeated on this board. It seems like no one is interested in knowing the truth about a situation before spewing something that fits their side of the debate. Your welcome saunterelle!! In regards to the "outright lies" in our forum, they had a good teacher, Bush. He taught them that if one repeats the same thing over and over and over.....etc., people would actually believe. What he forgot to tell them is, he really didn't give a holy hoot about their future. |
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Post by subdjoe on Oct 3, 2008 0:23:20 GMT -5
Of course, the leftists here have two Clinton, DiFi, Barry, Babs, Kennedy, Schumer, Moore, Gore, and Queen Nancy to give the advanced classes in lies.
Oh, wait! I forgot, they don't lie, they just speak the Revealed Truth. Not that that is the same as true or factual, mind.
Now, if I were to follow Minks way of doing things I would at this point get into a snit about Mink and Saunterelle calling me a liar and start a thread about it, get all angsty, and carry on about how intolerant people are.
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Post by bolverk on Oct 3, 2008 16:14:51 GMT -5
At least when McCain wears a bracelet, he knows what the troops have been through. And he isn't doing it for political reasons. Remember the scene in "Rennaisance Man" where DiVito is called before the base commander, says his only involvement with Viet Nam was a march in the rain carrying a sign with the name of a dead soldier. He is asked "Do you remeber the name of that soldier?" One of the best lines in the movie. A line that changed his view as well. A great movie too. |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 3, 2008 16:16:03 GMT -5
Thank you for posting this Mink. Too many outright lies are repeated on this board. It seems like no one is interested in knowing the truth about a situation before spewing something that fits their side of the debate. Your welcome saunterelle!! In regards to the "outright lies" in our forum, they had a good teacher, Bush. He taught them that if one repeats the same thing over and over and over.....etc., people would actually believe. What he forgot to tell them is, he really didn't give a holy hoot about their future. You mean like Congress repeats the same thing over and over, to the detriment of this nation. They spent so much time hammering Bush when the Democrats took over that they did not do the peoples business. THAT PISSES ME OFF!!! THE F-ING ECONOMY IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CONGRESS, NOT THE PRESIDENT. |
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Post by Mink on Oct 3, 2008 20:13:16 GMT -5
Your welcome saunterelle!! In regards to the "outright lies" in our forum, they had a good teacher, Bush. He taught them that if one repeats the same thing over and over and over.....etc., people would actually believe. What he forgot to tell them is, he really didn't give a holy hoot about their future. You mean like Congress repeats the same thing over and over, to the detriment of this nation. They spent so much time hammering Bush when the Democrats took over that they did not do the peoples business. THAT PISSES ME OFF!!! THE F-ING ECONOMY IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CONGRESS, NOT THE PRESIDENT. So you can understand the frustration of the first 6 years of this administration when Republicans were the majority in Congress and the people were not represented. At that time, Congress did what the pres. wanted even though some, like Specter, who voiced his bipartisan agreements, it was to no avail. Two years ago, when the people voted in more Democrats, the majority is not by much so nothing gets done, on either side. |
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