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Post by subdjoe on Oct 12, 2008 21:12:57 GMT -5
Any of you notice how if you go to a "progressive" website all you can usually do is look around or dontate money?
Go to a conservative site and you can do those, but there is almost always a way to ask questions or make comments.
I got to thinking about this because one of the gun fora that I'm on has recently been invaded by members of both Stayput.org (misnamed Moveon.org) and Alliance Something (or Something Alliance - a Soros backed group that I don't recall the name of, and those threads have now been deleted). They ignore the forum rules, post their anti-civil rights drivel, insult the regulars, and in general act like smug, self centered assholes. I went to Moveon and the other group to register my displeasure, and there was no way to do that. So typical of the o, so tolerant, diverse, and inclusive left - they don't want to hear anything from anyone. They just want your cash.
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Post by The Big Dog on Oct 12, 2008 22:42:58 GMT -5
Try posting at Democrat Underground... I was banned in exactly one post.
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Post by bolverk on Oct 13, 2008 12:29:06 GMT -5
I am going to join and use the Constitution against them.
Here are their rules:
Who We Are
Who is Welcome on Democratic Underground, and Who is Not
Democratic Underground is an online community for Democrats and other progressives. Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals, and to support Democratic candidates for political office.
We ban conservative disruptors who are opposed to the broad goals of this website. If you think overall that George W. Bush is doing a swell job, or if you wish to see Republicans win, or if you are generally supportive of conservative ideals, please do not register to post, as you will likely be banned.
People who repeatedly and willfully break the rules, or who generally engage in rude, anti-social behavior, will be banned. It doesn't matter if you are a fellow progressive, a long-term member of this community, or a donor.
If you have been banned from Democratic Underground, you are not permitted to log on again using a different username. Previously banned members will be immediately banned, regardless of behavior.
Relationship to the Democratic Party
Democratic Underground is a completely independent organization. Democratic Underground is not affiliated with the Democratic Party in any way, and comments posted here are not representative of the Democratic Party or its candidates.
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Post by bolverk on Oct 13, 2008 12:32:18 GMT -5
Isn't this a violation of the law? Are they allowed to discriminate based on political beliefs? Is that not a violation of our countries civil rights laws?
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Post by The Big Dog on Oct 13, 2008 14:33:31 GMT -5
Isn't this a violation of the law? Are they allowed to discriminate based on political beliefs? Is that not a violation of our countries civil rights laws? Yes they are absolutely allowed to discriminate based on political beliefs. There is no First Amendment guarantee on a membership driven Internet forum. All the good ones practice free speech, bad ones like DU do not, and they also tell you up front that they don't. It's like membership in a private club. To join you must agree to their rules and comport yourself according to them. Unlike say, the Olympic Club which is a private club and can set the rules the way it likes, these nutroots are too busy preaching to their choir to understand that there might be any other point of view and they actively suppress it. Which goes to show you just how it could be when the progressives come to real power. If you need further I can suggest as reading "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg. Available at the SoCo Library. |
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Post by Mink on Oct 13, 2008 23:28:29 GMT -5
Subdjoe: "Any of you notice how if you go to a "progressive" website all you can usually do is look around or dontate money?
Go to a conservative site and you can do those, but there is almost always a way to ask questions or make comments."
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Yeah, I've noticed about the request for contribution, but that is everywhere especially nowdays. It doesn't really surprise me however with the Dems because they aren't known for having many big-spenders. I'm not sure what sites you go to but if I want to voice my opinion/s, I go to the source, my reps.
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Post by The New Guy on Oct 13, 2008 23:38:28 GMT -5
It doesn't really surprise me however with the Dems because they aren't known for having many big-spenders. i damn near had to call 911 and report myself as a choking victim on that one! dems are known for having big spenders? who do you supposed attends those $28,000 dollar/plate fundraisers? mink, sometimes you say the silliest things. |
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Post by The New Guy on Oct 13, 2008 23:39:28 GMT -5
speaking of differences, here's an interesting little video about crabs in a bucket......
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Post by subdjoe on Oct 14, 2008 9:23:02 GMT -5
Mink wrote: "It doesn't really surprise me however with the Dems because they aren't known for having many big-spenders."
Mr. Soros isn't a big spender? All the backers of the Joyce foundation are not big spenders? Rob Reiner, Barbara Streisand, Bono, et al. are not big spenders? Yep. And you have some beachfront property in NE to sell, right?
Mink wrote: "I'm not sure what sites you go to but if I want to voice my opinion/s, I go to the source, my reps. "
You either missed or chose to ignore my point. The o! so tolerant, diverse, inclusive liberals who supposedly welcome open debate and comments MAKE NO PROVISION for people to express themselves. Most of the big name sites don't even have a link so you can email them unless you make a donation. It would be nice to be able to let them know what you think about the lies and distortions they put up as "fact".
And, yes, on legislation and policy matter I also go to my various elected representatives. Even after their staff members tell me to stop calling and emailing because the rep knows what is best, has the answers and doesn't want any opposing points of view.
And it is funny how Republican legislators have better computers than Democratic legislators do. I have been unable to get information on fast moving bills from my own liberal representatives, but I can usually call a rep. from a different district who is a member of the GOP and get the information. So, either the GOP has better computers, or the liberals don't want to give out information on bills.
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Post by subdjoe on Oct 14, 2008 9:26:58 GMT -5
Bolverk, you should know that the 1st Amendment, like the rest of the Bill of Rights applies to the Federal Govt. and not individuals or private entities. Individuals are, in theory, allowed to discriminate on how you part your hair or your shoe size if they choose. Well, unless you are a business an try to cater to males or whites. Then you get into all sorts of trouble. (but if you choose to cater to only females or only blacks that is OK, I have yet to understand that).
TNG - good video there. I especially liked his "I escaped the plantation, you havn't" I expect he got a lot of hate email from that video.
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Post by The Big Dog on Oct 14, 2008 13:46:35 GMT -5
Bolverk, you should know that the 1st Amendment, like the rest of the Bill of Rights applies to the Federal Govt. and not individuals or private entities. Individuals are, in theory, allowed to discriminate on how you part your hair or your shoe size if they choose. Well, unless you are a business an try to cater to males or whites. Then you get into all sorts of trouble. (but if you choose to cater to only females or only blacks that is OK, I have yet to understand that). Actually the entire Bill of Rights, except for that darned Second Amendment, has been incorporated as having effectivity on state / local government through case law. And post Heller, we are working on incorporation of Amendment Two. All of the enumerated Bill of Rights proscribe government, they do not proscribe citizens. That's where some measure of statutory federal civil rights laws come into play, such as regarding discrimination in public accomadation, housing, public transportation, etc. |
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