Don't Worry, Obama Will Save the Day

[bolverk]

I had to exalt you for your information Max, it was interesting and something to consider very closely.

[maxsawdust]

Oct 16, 2008 14:43:56 GMT -5 @bolverk said:

I had to exalt you for your information Max, it was interesting and something to consider very closely.

Thanks Bolverk, it's nice to know not EVERYONE is in complete and total denial. Or on such a Repub bashing high that they lose sight of the reality of the situation. Or even the sight of being able to do their OWN RESEARCH and find their OWN conclusions.

I cannot figure out which it is most of the time, but it's something that is blinding the Obamiacs for sure.


BTW Saunterelle, go back to your link and read the first person to comment remarks. I'm not alone by a long shot.

[saunterelle]

I am suspicious of where you get your information. It seems that you will believe anything that is floating around out there on the internet. If you can prove any significant suspicious relationship between Obama and shady characters I'd be more than willing to acknowledge it but you haven't provided me with anything more than hearsay.

Try fact checking at an objective site like Snopes.com before spewing forth rumors. Here are a couple of links to clear up some of your prior accusations. You do trust snopes, don't you?

snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp

snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

[The Big Dog]

Snopes objectivity is suspect as relates to Obama. Ownership there are vocal supporters. On the Ayers link, for instance, Snopes asserts that they were "never close". That is really a statement of opinion and objectively speaking may or may not be the case as the complete depth of Barack's relationship to Ayers has not been completely unearthed. Barack answers evasively and both Ayers and his wife have conveniently dropped out of sight.

Try factcheck.org. For political stuff they are about as reliable as anyone.

[maxsawdust]

Oct 16, 2008 16:08:24 GMT -5 saunterelle said:

I am suspicious of where you get your information. It seems that you will believe anything that is floating around out there on the internet. If you can prove any significant suspicious relationship between Obama and shady characters I'd be more than willing to acknowledge it but you haven't provided me with anything more than hearsay.

Try fact checking at an objective site like Snopes.com before spewing forth rumors. Here are a couple of links to clear up some of your prior accusations. You do trust snopes, don't you?

snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp

snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

As Big Dog said not when it comes to Obama..no I do not.

Do you know who owns snopes?

Exactly.

www.newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2008/09/23/barack-obama-bill-ayers-stanley-kurtz-makes-connection

EXCERPT :

The Obama campaign has struggled to downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody who I exchange ideas with on a regular basis." Yet documents in the CAC archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days looking through them....

You see Saunterelle Here a reporter spent DAYS in the archives reviewing LEGAL DOCUMENTS as relates to Obama/Ayers.




online.wsj.com/article/SB122212856075765367.html

WSJ is "out to get him" right.....



article.nationalreview.com/?q=MTViMGRmMmYxZTgwZTFjYmFjODU5YzM4Y2MwM2ViMjY=


So you see this individual spent days going over legal documents, and then wrote his report. That was picked up by SEVERAL credible news outlets.

But you will explain this all away, with your magic unicorn and your dreams of utopia..

[saunterelle]

But the problem here is that Stanley Kurtz is a conservative and has a vested interest in getting McCain elected. It isn't an objective look at Obama's relationship with Ayres.

Thanks BigDog, factcheck.org seems like a legit site and more focused on politics than snopes is.

[maxsawdust]

Oct 16, 2008 17:26:55 GMT -5 saunterelle said:

But the problem here is that Stanley Kurtz is a conservative and has a vested interest in getting McCain elected. It isn't an objective look at Obama's relationship with Ayres.

Thanks BigDog, factcheck.org seems like a legit site and more focused on politics than snopes is.

THANK YOU For 110% proving my point about you and your ilk.

You said " If you can prove any significant suspicious relationship between Obama and shady characters I'd be more than willing to acknowledge it " The report is there did you hear of a libel or slander case???Did you hear Bill Ayers disavow ANY of this? Why?

THE DOCUMENTS ARE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW WOULD THIS MAN WHO HAS A CAREER AS A REPORTER JUST OUTRIGHT LIE? Why would he ...because Obama does it all the time..no see he has a JOB as a REPORTER and Likes to keep his CREDIBILITY..why would he lie about EASILY REVIEWED Documents and WHERE IS THE REPORT FROM THE "Downstream" Media PROVING Stanley Lied in ANY WAY shape or form??

LIAR just like your "messiah", you COMPLETELY ignore multiple NEWS OUTLETS. Because the man who wrote the report doesn't vote the way you do?

Do you HONESTLY BELIEVE THE $hit you spew?

You HONESTLY in your heart BELIEVE that EVERYONE who has ANYTHING negative to say that CAN BE BACKED UP BY LEGAL DOCUMENTS is .."the man" out to get the good ol' "barry?".

What a joke, I am done speaking to you as like I said in an earlier post it is a COMPLETE waste of my time. As you are "All In" on Obama he could kill a litter of puppies and you'd spin it that it was good and "necessary".. Your type are downright again to quote you "SCARY".

NO ONE WILL NEVER FIND A SOURCE THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO YOU AS ALL "DOWNSTREAM" MEDIA ARE IN BED WITH "barry" Just like yourself AND THEY DO NOT DARE WRITE A BAD WORD ABOUT Chairman Maobama

Hey how about these WINNERS "barry" has on his team of endorsers and endorsee's.......

www.politicswest.com/29086/alexi_giannoulias_obamas_next_not_man_i_knew

www.nypost.com/seven/09052007/news/nationalnews/obamas_mob_tie_idekick.htm

news.yahoo.com/story/ap/20081011/ap_on_el_pr/rezko_spilling_the_beans

This guy WILL sing he will rat Gianoulias who WILL rat out Obama so he and Rezko can share a cell


Send in the UNICORNS and FAIRY dust to explain this away.

I mean sheesh they dismissed LEGAL DOCUMENTS reviewed in the ARCHIVE as "a conservative with a vested interest" LMAO @ YOU.

[maxsawdust]

The worst part about you, is that you cannot even admit it LOOKS fishy.


You go straight to subterfuge and outright lying.

Instead of merely acknowledging this is all Super Suspect at the VERY VERY least.

[saunterelle]

I still don't understand what is so suspect about it. Many prominent Republicans were on the board along with Ayers and Obama. Are they suspect too?

You won't even accept information from a non-biased site like snopes.com. Why should I accept anything written by a journalist who writes for the National Review?

[maxsawdust]

Wait so you ignore the WSJ also?

And what about the next set of links?

Rezko IS going to prison, he will roll some people in the process.."barry?' will be on that list.

Watch and weep. The judge Fitzgerald is taking the case VERY seriously and will get to the bottom of it.

Also here is a simple one for you.


"barry?" COULD NOT GET THE CLEARANCE NEEDED TO CLEAN THE FLOORS IN A FEDERAL BUILDING. Yet we should all feel Oh so comfortable with him at the Red Phone and finger on the buttons...right.

Due to his past associations...yeah nothing to see here.

unicorns will soon be extinct and your fairy dust has to be running low ..who will save you then?

[The New Guy]

Oct 16, 2008 19:50:02 GMT -5 saunterelle said:

I still don't understand what is so suspect about it. Many prominent Republicans were on the board along with Ayers and Obama. Are they suspect too?

YES, YES, AND YES! they are all suspect.

[Mink]

Is it that Obama will save the day? Or is it that Bush ruined it?