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Post by Mink on Oct 23, 2008 0:12:33 GMT -5
Let me look around, but not tonight as it is late and I am tired. No worries, there is no hurry. Here is one link and I must apologize for not adhereing to our unwritten rule of not changing topics within a thread, so instead of quoting part of it, I will provide the link, taken from the presidents' daily briefing revealing his knowledge of attacks by bin laden. Note the date: www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB116/pdb8-6-2001.pdf |
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Post by surefire on Oct 23, 2008 0:14:15 GMT -5
^Thanks for providing sources.
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Post by bolverk on Oct 23, 2008 11:44:09 GMT -5
Ahhhhhh haaaaa haaaaa haaa haa... oh man that is rich. Attack the station without addressing what she said. Typical blind Democrat. Fox is biased alright, towards the truth. Like ABC, NBC and CBS are the pillars of media truthfulness, ahhhhh haaaa haaaa haa. If that were true, Fox News would not even exist. The bias of the big three is what gave Fox News the ability to become so big, because they present both sides, something no Democrat ever wants to hear. Including you. I apologize, I did hear one truth from FOX. They actually admitted that Obama won the third debate! Bravo  I rest my case... |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 23, 2008 11:48:27 GMT -5
So how many bombs fell on your house since our 9/11 response? Five, ten, twenty or more? How many terrorist attacks have occurred on our soil since 9/11? One, two, four or more? Why don't you check the numbers in the previous Democrat Administration. We had more then twice the number of terrorist attacks on our soil under that administration. So tell me, why won't you admit that G.W. Bush kept this country safe? Because you are a propagandist Democrat, that's why. Bush knew the attack was coming on 9/11 and he let it happen, so we really shouldn't have had one attack on his watch, period! He also escorted the Bin Ladens out of the country while the rest of the country was on "lockdown". Ahhh hhaaaa haaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaa haa oh man you are funny. Bush knew the attack was coming and he let it happen. Ahhhhh haaaa haa haaaaaa haaaaaaa. Do you know that what you just wrote is called libel? You, nor anyone else for that matter, has a shred of evidence that Bush allowed these attacks to happen. In fact, I say you are a liar, plain and simple. The men in the white coats are coming today, there coming to take Mink away, oh ha hee hee ha ha.... You are a conspiracy nut job. |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 23, 2008 11:52:28 GMT -5
A French accent, right? Did you know that Nova Scotia means new Scotland? They don't have French accents, but the people in Quebec do. And the Canadians on the West Coast have a totally different accent, more American West. You are engaging in stereotyping, which is a form of bigotry. Unless you have spoken to a Canadian, you won't know what I mean, but their accent is very distinctive. You assume people from Canada are French? Well, some are and some are from Germany. Just so you know, as it seems you are very unable to read between the lines. While I was stationed in the military in Washington and Germany, I worked with both Canadians and Germans, so I know what they sound like. I was stationed in Fort Lewis Washington, get a map and look how close that is to Vancouver and Victoria as well as British Columbia. One of my good friends has a brother in law from Canada, and I spoke with him at length. Guess what, no accent to speak of. You don't know what you are talking about, and you are stereotyping Canadians, which is racism. Are you really that dense? In fact, what you are saying is no different then saying, "I can tell he is black from his accent or voice." That is a racist statement, and it is exactly what you are saying. |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 23, 2008 11:55:09 GMT -5
Wow... This theory falls under the tin foil hat category... unless one has proof to back it up. Sorry Mink, I like you and respect your views... but this post is hard to believe (unless you can prove this conspiracy theory). Where have you been surefire? This is not "tin foil" or heresay. It is well-know that when Bush came into office, Pres. Clinton had to brief Bush of any national security issue which Bin Laden was, with the intent to do major damage. Bush was well aware of outside sources as well, for instance the Phillipine govt. who had caught terrorists staying in a hotel and they retrieved plans of the terrorists. While the country was ordered to have no airplanes flying after the attacks, this is when the Bin Laden family that was here in the US at the time, were flown out. google it Another lie. I have been in the Philippines more then once in my life, before and after 9/11. The above statements are not representative of the facts. |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 23, 2008 11:58:42 GMT -5
Where have you been surefire? This is not "tin foil" or heresay. It is well-know that when Bush came into office, Pres. Clinton had to brief Bush of any national security issue which Bin Laden was, with the intent to do major damage. Bush was well aware of outside sources as well, for instance the Phillipine govt. who had caught terrorists staying in a hotel and they retrieved plans of the terrorists. While the country was ordered to have no airplanes flying after the attacks, this is when the Bin Laden family that was here in the US at the time, were flown out. google it All I'm finding in google are blogs and conspiracy sites. Are there any legit news sources that prove Bush knew 911 was going down as it happened, did nothing about it, and then HELPED Laden's escape? Because if it is true, this is possibly a capital offense (treason) if he were to be convicted. At the very least, it would have warranted an immediate impeachment. This issue was played in the news the last time I visited the Philippines. There was never any specific information to say exactly when or where the attack was going to occur. It was the beginning of developing information. It could have been followed up on if the intelligence budget had not been cut by Democrats in the Senate, against the advice of Republicans and the head Democrat Bill Clinton himself. Clinton ultimately abdicated his responsibility to the country to the Senate on the decision and the end results was 9/11. |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 23, 2008 12:00:16 GMT -5
I'm a little confused on the accent thing. 7 out of 10 Canadians I know sound like typically West Coast USA (CA, OR, WA). Do they have several dialects like we do? In other words, are there parts of Canada that are very distinctive like our deep south? The short answer is yes. Canada, like America, is made up of immigrants from different European nations. So, over the years they have developed several regional accents along the lines of their original origins. In fact, the Canadians on the West Coast of Canada sound a lot more like people from Washington and Oregon then you might think. The folks from Saskatchewan and areas east are where you get the McKenzie brothers accents. Ontario and Quebec are closer to french accents. And then you have the folks from Nova Scotia and those areas, which have an even different accent. Canadians, just like Americans, have varying regional accents. |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 23, 2008 13:13:00 GMT -5
But, enough of Canadian accents. Lets address the context of the statements.
First, she was proud to live in Canada and have as a neighbor the most generous country on the face of the Earth, who is the greatest nation for doing good for other countries.
This cannot be disputed. In fact, under this President, the amount of good we do has actually increased, as TBD has pointed out in some of his posts, backed by comments from the leaders of other nations, calling it his true legacy. How funny that Americans do not know about all that good, like the schools, roads and infrastructure we have created around the world. Instead they attempt to saddle GW with the economy, which is the job of Congress, and give him no credit on foreign policy where he has been a huge success.
She also said she understands Americans anger about the economy, but not its direction.
It seems she has a better grasp of the function of our government then most adult voters do. She clearly understands that the anger directed towards President Bush is misdirected and clearly should be directed at the members of Congress who are hiding behind the ignorance of Americans as to who is truly responsible. Funny how our economy did so well for seven years and then suddenly after two years of a Democrat majority it begins to weaken. There is only two possible reasons for that. Political business cycle or poor governance.
She notes GW has kept Americans safe since 9/11. He has taken the war off our shores and prevented further attacks.
Again, she is right on the mark. There have been no more attacks like those that plagued the Clinton Administration. GW took decisive action and took the fight to those that started the whole war on terrorism. I know some want to claim Bush perpetrated the attacks through inaction, but that is false. The limited intelligence was not adequate to act on and our intelligence community was hog tied by Democrats in the Senate who insisted on cutting the intelligence budget by $1 billion, even against the protests of then President Bill Clinton, who eventually caved on the issue.
Think about that, Bill Clinton, the strongest Democrat in terms of getting what he wants, was unable to prevent the Democratically controlled congress from cutting the intelligence budget by $1 billion to the detriment of this nation. What makes anyone think Obama can stand up to a Democratically controlled super majority congress who wants to raise taxes?
This Canadian lady, whose nationality I will not question based on her accent, is more astute about American politics and policy then most Americans. And Minks only response is to question her nationality. Why is that? Because Mink cannot refute anything this woman says.
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Post by saunterelle on Oct 23, 2008 13:22:42 GMT -5
Are you for real? Bush has been a foreign policy disaster. If he did so much good for the world then why do all polls show that most of the world hates our recent foreign policy decisions? Here are excerpts from this www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/27/news/pew.php recent report: |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 23, 2008 14:15:31 GMT -5
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Post by bolverk on Oct 23, 2008 14:22:25 GMT -5
Are you for real? Bush has been a foreign policy disaster. If he did so much good for the world then why do all polls show that most of the world hates our recent foreign policy decisions? Here are excerpts from this www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/27/news/pew.php recent report: Because the polls are biased, and no one asked Africa their opinion. I bet you did not even know Bush was doing great things in Africa. Those who seek more money in the battle against AIDS had a real friend in George W. Bush, but you don't know that. He has battled this disease with far more vigor then any Progressive Politician ever. Along with poverty, hunger and building infrastructure. But hey, focus on the economy. The Democrats best bet is to pass the buck on the responsibility of Congress to the Office of the President. To bad the people of this country do not know where the real responsibility lies. |
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