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Post by JustMyOpinion on Nov 8, 2008 11:04:53 GMT -5
I hope we can all come together as Americans, not as neo-cons, liberal leftists, etc. but as a people that strives for success of our country in unity so that WE can once again become the “Best of America.”
I think the Obama win will represent hope to (some) “black” people, and they will no longer have to feel hopeless, or live as victims (self imposed or otherwise) and rise up to new possibilities and goals they can now feel are in reach. This will benefit all of us in many ways.
The Obama win has motivated peoples in other countries to take pause and reexamine their views of us, and no I don’t think we need to win a popularity contest, but if we get up against it again we would be better off having support of other countries, especially now with us in two wars and the current state of the economy.
I know Obama doesn’t really have fairy dust and he can’t magically make the world a better place, and neither does he. He appears to be realistic that “change” is going to be a long process and not without sacrifice. In fact, he knowingly may be sacrificing his own life trying to implement “change” and for that you have to give credit where credit is due.
If in your minds all that is left after the election is a pile of lemons why not try to make lemonade from them? After all, we are all on common ground as Americans despite our views and that is part of the beauty of living here in the USA.
Plus, just think of the fun you'll have posting if he screws up!
~Just a few thoughts...
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Post by surefire on Nov 8, 2008 11:49:16 GMT -5
I hope we can all come together as Americans, not as neo-cons, liberal leftists, etc. but as a people that strives for success of our country in unity so that WE can once again become the “Best of America.” I think the Obama win will represent hope to (some) “black” people, and they will no longer have to feel hopeless, or live as victims (self imposed or otherwise) and rise up to new possibilities and goals they can now feel are in reach. This will benefit all of us in many ways. The Obama win has motivated peoples in other countries to take pause and reexamine their views of us, and no I don’t think we need to win a popularity contest, but if we get up against it again we would be better off having support of other countries, especially now with us in two wars and the current state of the economy. I know Obama doesn’t really have fairy dust and he can’t magically make the world a better place, and neither does he. He appears to be realistic that “change” is going to be a long process and not without sacrifice. In fact, he knowingly may be sacrificing his own life trying to implement “change” and for that you have to give credit where credit is due. If in your minds all that is left after the election is a pile of lemons why not try to make lemonade from them? After all, we are all on common ground as Americans despite our views and that is part of the beauty of living here in the USA. Plus, just think of the fun you'll have posting if he screws up! ~Just a few thoughts... Nice post JMO. You're taking a very balanced, level headed stance. I'm happy that this country has shown that we are all one now -- race is no longer an issue that can prevent someone from being elected. I just wish it was a different black candidate -- someone along the lines of Alan Keyes for instance. I'd even happily take a black moderate left leaning Democrat. My only gripe with Mr. Obama is that he is at the extreme of the left. I'm sure he is a great guy and would be fun to have a beer with, but I cannot see him governing from the center with those lovely radicals in control of the house and senate (Pelosi, Reid). Having said that, I will give our president elect a chance. And yes, if he screws up and takes the country down the road of European socialism we will have a field day-- much like all the Bush bashers have had a field day over the last 8 years. |
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Post by subdjoe on Nov 8, 2008 11:49:59 GMT -5
I agree - we are not a bunch of hyphenated-Americans with what comes in front being of greater import than the "American". And, as you say, we ALL need to come together as AMEIRCANS. Conservatives and Moderates know this. We have been saying it for decades.
But people like Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Kennedy, Dean, all still push to make the first part more important than the American part. Until they start pushing for the civil and Constitutional rights of ALL Americans to be recognized, rather than constantly pushing for special rights and set asides for albino-left-handed-lesbian-electrician-Americans or one handed juggler-Americans at the expense of all other Americans, don't expect a lot to happen.
And, until private property rights are recognized - a person who has one or two rental properties should have the right to not rent to people without the State stepping in and at bayonet point saying "You MUST rent to these people," a small business owner should be allowed to hire the people who are qualified and not who the State says should be hired to fill some demographic quota, don't expect things to change.
I find it more than just a little ironic, and horribly cynical on the part of Barry and his supporters, that now, after the election, they are backing off and saying "Hey! What we REALLY meant to say was that we need to work hard on these things. We can't work miracles overnight, give us some time." after spending nigh-on to two years PROMISING that things would instantly and magically change. Could it be that he didn't expect to win? And now, when faced with the crushing responsibility he is starting to realize that there is a bit more to the job than handing out flyers or debating high sounding ideals and party line rhetoric?
Yes, we all need to pull together. From the way the Dem leadership in Congress is acting, that seems to mean that everyone needs to agree with the Barry/Harry/Nancy agenda down to the last jot and tittle or risk being kicked out. So much for free exchange of ideas, tolerance, diversity, and inclusivness.
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Post by surefire on Nov 8, 2008 11:58:33 GMT -5
Yes, we all need to pull together. From the way the Dem leadership in Congress is acting, that seems to mean that everyone needs to agree with the Barry/Harry/Nancy agenda down to the last jot and tittle or risk being kicked out. So much for free exchange of ideas, tolerance, diversity, and inclusivness. Exactly. It feels like the extreme left, specifically Pelosi and Reid, are in the "You're either with us or you're our enemy" camp. Reid may even be punishing people in his own party for standing up for what they believe in, such as Lieberman. This is a very dangerous administration IMO, specifically Pelosi and Reid. I think Obama could be a good president if the house and senate leaders were moderates, but that is not the case. Pelosi and Reid are going to pressure Obama into hard core socialism, even if Obama wants to try to govern from the center, IMO. |
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Post by thewholetruth on Nov 8, 2008 19:23:30 GMT -5
Yes, we all need to pull together. From the way the Dem leadership in Congress is acting, that seems to mean that everyone needs to agree with the Barry/Harry/Nancy agenda down to the last jot and tittle or risk being kicked out. So much for free exchange of ideas, tolerance, diversity, and inclusivness. Exactly. It feels like the extreme left, specifically Pelosi and Reid, are in the "You're either with us or you're our enemy" camp. Reid may even be punishing people in his own party for standing up for what they believe in, such as Lieberman. This is a very dangerous administration IMO, specifically Pelosi and Reid. I think Obama could be a good president if the house and senate leaders were moderates, but that is not the case. Pelosi and Reid are going to pressure Obama into hard core socialism, even if Obama wants to try to govern from the center, IMO. Haven't I heard that "You're either with us or you're our enemy" somewhere before? LOL Oh, yeah. Bush got that from the Bible. So the premise is sound, even when Pelosi and Reid take that stance. I agree that Pelosi and Reid are going to pressure Obama to take the Marxist Road, but I doubt Obama will take that road for this term. He knows he'll never get re-elected if he takes that approach now. God forbid he get another term, watch out. He'll take us as far into Socialism/Marxism as he possibly can... |
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