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Post by bolverk on Nov 14, 2008 17:01:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess it was your turn to cross that line you all like so much. I actually laugh at such stuff since I know my intentions, and my thoughts are balanced, yours? I am simply stating that I will not jump on any band wagon that is circling for a shoot out. I will see what develops, good grief we haven't even had the Inauguration yet and already Obama has ruined our country. And, furthermore do you hear me raving that Obama has a beautiful fairy dust plan, and that I know personally it's the only solution, cuz he's soooo Obama, and dazzling too. (laughing) Some of the comments posted lately are alarmist without fact. Now if you are saying I'm on the "left" because I will wait to see what the outline of his intentions are, and do have an initial read based on his speech (but waiting for action) then, well, guess I am one of "those people." I prefer logic over panic, and YES even over emotion, and I don't ever like to assume all is lost until I KNOW as much. The way he was covered in the press, there is no way to have known his intentions. He was presented as the answer to Change. He is the Change. Even he said it. How arrogant is that? |
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Post by bolverk on Nov 14, 2008 17:04:06 GMT -5
Max, my point has consistently been WE DON"T KNOW WHY it has been so difficult to find a full text speech. You don't, I don't etc. So, then, why assume the worst??? Because history has shown us that revisionists and propagandists are not good for any nation, what so ever. They usually have a hidden agenda. |
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Post by bolverk on Nov 14, 2008 17:07:42 GMT -5
Max, I don't pray to FactCheck.org, unfortunately it was the only site SO FAR that I could find that had any information on this subject, and frankly I thought Brooks Jackson did a good job of trying to dispel the Hitler worries. That is for lack of trying. I found his full speech and posted it here for you to see and listen too. Yet you insist that the Obama apologists are correct in their assertions of what he meant. Well, words still mean things. A Civilian National Security Force can not be as strong or as powerful as the military without arms. It is impossible. Believe what you wish. History has shown us what to expect already. Your job is to explain why Obama is so much different then those other power hungry leftists who already tried this crap. |
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Post by bolverk on Nov 14, 2008 17:08:39 GMT -5
And by the way, I never put any faith in fact check dot org.
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Post by maxsawdust on Nov 14, 2008 17:59:32 GMT -5
So wait...if George W. Bush had been the President of Annenburg Political Challenge. The group responsible for FUNDING "fakecheck.org".....
AND THEN
EVERY and I mean EVERY QUESTIONABLE THING ABOUT THE MAN....had been magically dispelled as Pure BS by the magic of factcheck.org...
AND THEN
HE WON THE ELECTION...
You and the ENTIRE rest of the liberal left or whatever you want to be called wouldn't be HOLLERING bullshit at the TOP of your lungs?
Yeah right.
Take EVERYTHING Obama has said or says he "stands" for and insert the name George W. Bush..and tell me it wouldn't be TEARS TEARS EVERYWHERE!!
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Post by subdjoe on Nov 14, 2008 20:39:38 GMT -5
Barack, and others, have said this force would be trained to operate in the wake of natural disasters. So who is to say they won't be trained to pull shenanigans like what sworn law enforcement officers did in New Orleans post Katrina? Without that all we can do is think in terms of what it could be. but, but, but... Big Dog, you KNOW it can't happen here in America. The Obama has said it won't. Hill & Bill have said it won't. How can you not belive them? |
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