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Post by ferrous on May 20, 2008 8:42:49 GMT -5
This message from Barack Obama seems to have been ignored by main stream Media and his supporters. May 17, 2008 Roseburg, Oregon: Sen. Obama states; [Pitching his message to Oregon's environmentally-conscious voters, Obama called on the United States to "lead by example" on global warming, and develop new technologies at home which could be exported to developing countries. "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said. "That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," he added.] Is Sen. Obama saying that America is second rate to the rest of the world and we must follow the rest of the world, rather than lead in the responsible effort to control our wastes? Maybe he could have said; ""We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... we must set an example to the rest of the world that we are responsible stewards of our environment." Or, is this continued attack on the stature of the United States by Sen. Obama, his wife and his pastors going to be once again purposely ignore and buried by the media and his supporters? afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5h-wpxs1Re-8vx2Zk5xnYygW1W67w |
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Post by iraqvet2003 on May 20, 2008 9:03:45 GMT -5
I'm not liking this guy's tone at all.
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Post by saunterelle on May 20, 2008 13:22:31 GMT -5
America has to make some important lifestyle changes. We are viewed as a bully in the eyes of the the world, and yes, how we are viewed is extremely important.
If everyone in the world lived like we do in America we would need multiple Earths to support us. With China and India modernizing quickly, we need to set a sustainable standard of living which means lowering our quality of life a little bit in some minor ways.
Obama is a realist who will lead this country in the right direction. He will work hard to get the rest of the world back on our side. McCain would continue the destructive path that Bush has taken and he would run our country into the ground.
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Post by subdjoe on May 20, 2008 17:05:36 GMT -5
It may be true that the United States "are viewed as a bully in the eyes of the the world" (yes, I'm using the older and more constitutionally correct form - the United States are, not the United States is).
But those same eyes that see us as bullies always seem to look to us first when something bad happens somewhere else in the world. We are expected to provice food, medicine, shelter, security in the form of soldiers, sailors, Marines, and airmen.
We are expected to help others solve their internal problems, provide medicine, teachers, engineers, health care professionals, etc, etc, etc.
Look at how many scream that we should be 'doing something' in the Darfur region. And, if the UN ever gets its act together and decides to step in, who will bear the major part of the expense and provide most of the manpower and material? Yep, that Big Bully, the United States of America.
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Post by mrroqout on May 20, 2008 18:29:11 GMT -5
"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said. "That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," he added. If India and China's "carbon footprint gets as big as ours, we're gone."----- Barack Obama as Dummy for Zbigniew Brzezinski his puppet master.
Sure goes a long way to reveal the true program of a future Obama administration: savage austerity, brutal economic sacrifice, and a massive further reduction in the standard of living of the depleted and exhausted US population as demanded by David Rockefeller, George Soros, and Obama's Wall Street backers. This will be done under left cover through a global warming tax, a third world solidarity tax, and other demagogic frauds.
Obama's sound bytes are actually a sloganized version of a key passage from Zbigniew Brzezinski's recent book Second Chance....Will Obama cut the current US standard of living by 40%? By 50%? When he does, will he still call it the politics of hope? Obama has been trained to hate the American people through two decades of association with hate-mongers like Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, and Brzezinski himself.
Obama's Oregon outburst needs to be read in the light of earlier unguarded statements by Michelle Obama,"We need to be inspired...to make the sacrifices that are needed to push us to a different place. The change Barack is talking about is hard, so don't get too excited because Barack is going to demand that you too be different."
Insiders have long recognized that Zbigniew Brzezinski (helped by his son Mark) owns and runs Obama. It has also long been known that Zbig does the thinking for Obama.
Obama's campaign has long been attacking Bush from the right, criticizing the current regime for not exploiting 9/11 to impose savage economic austerity.We now have good evidence that Obama will flay the American people alive with his elitist economic policies.
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Post by harpman1 on May 20, 2008 18:49:49 GMT -5
I'd like one good reason why we REALLY, REALLY need the support of the nations that despise us. After providing for the security of the entire free world for 60 years, the spoiled heirs of these declining economic & cultural basket cases actually think we should give a whit how they "feel" about us.
Try this; next tsunami; cyclone; earthquake etc., just fail to send any "aid" to the victim nation & tell them "Expect the French, Russians, Red Chinese & Germans any time now".
I have zero interest in trying to impress any nation that is not interested in trying to impress us.
Suit up; step up; show up or shut up.
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Post by subdjoe on May 20, 2008 21:08:25 GMT -5
Harpman, don't you know that Americans are supposed to feel guilty about everything? We must feel guilty about our high standard of living. And about the low standard of living of about 75% of the world population. We need to wallow in guilt about slavery, oppression of women, endagered species (when was the last time you hugged a spotted owl?). Guilt and reparations must become our national past time. Just ask any of the rich white people who run the DNC and the progressive movement.
Oh, and by the way, Welcome!
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Post by harpman1 on May 20, 2008 22:05:11 GMT -5
Right back at 'ya!
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Post by ferrous on May 21, 2008 8:48:37 GMT -5
Again, Sen. Obama has demeaning remarks for The United States and Middle America voters.
In San Francisco, speaking to a somewhat elitist group of donors, in a pandering show of self importance he pandered to the group with this little gem;
""It's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.''
Now, once again, Sen. Obama takes the "glass half full" approach and panders to a group of liberal Oregonians and attacks the "typical White folks of American with this demeaning attack;
""We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said."
Seems Sen. Obama just can't find a way to express himself without taking a shot at America.
In supporting his call for a responsible approach to living a sensible enviromental lifestyle he involks the strange notion that we should do things because we are worried about what our neighbors, the Jones think of us rather than doing things because they are the responsible course of action.
No! We shouldn't worry about what the world thinks of us.
Rather, we should be setting an example of responsible behavior, and leading by action on our part, not by following an anothers footsteps.
Sen. Obama wants to be the leader of one of the two remaining super power, but acts as if he would run it like some third world country begging guidance and direction from a bunch of backstabbers, malcontents, and thugs that have infested the United Nation.
But then again, what do I know, I'm just another one of those "typical white folks."
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Post by bolverk on May 21, 2008 16:12:10 GMT -5
There is nothing progressive about regressive solutions.
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Post by bolverk on May 21, 2008 16:17:41 GMT -5
America has to make some important lifestyle changes. We are viewed as a bully in the eyes of the the world, and yes, how we are viewed is extremely important. If everyone in the world lived like we do in America we would need multiple Earths to support us. With China and India modernizing quickly, we need to set a sustainable standard of living which means lowering our quality of life a little bit in some minor ways. Obama is a realist who will lead this country in the right direction. He will work hard to get the rest of the world back on our side. McCain would continue the destructive path that Bush has taken and he would run our country into the ground. It is funny how you talk about multiple earths. In order reach a verifiable conclusion on global climate change, you would need multiple earths to reach a scientific conclusion. That is the only possible way, and the very reason why computer models can not be trusted. |
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Post by harpman1 on May 21, 2008 18:19:17 GMT -5
Hmmmm....
Lowering our quality of life in some minor ways. Name a few.
If everyone in the world lived like we do, there would be a few million less breaking & entering in order to live like we do.
Obama is a fantacist who won't get the chance to lead this country anywhere, though he could lead Michelle-ma-belle to a library so she could brush up on her US history.
And, yes he would have led this country in the direction that would have had every tin-horn potentate pounding on our backside.
What makes life here suck so bad that we have to build a 2,000 mile fence to keep out the trespassers?
Just asking.
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