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Post by Mink on Jul 3, 2008 20:17:54 GMT -5
Saunterelle: Mink, no worries about the accidental smite. I won't hold my breath awaiting positive karma."
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I fixed my accident and will continue to push you towards the positive!
I never saw any reason why so many put you in the negative anyway.......
As for religion, I still agree with you. "Religion is nuts".....well, in this case as in many, has proved the point.
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Post by saunterelle on Jul 3, 2008 20:39:30 GMT -5
Thanks Mink, much appreciated.
TNG said:
"science is great but it is not the end all, be all. i have found no scientist who can tell me what lies beyond the universe. do you ever imagine what lies beyond? where does it all end? is it possible some form of intelligent design played a part in it all?"
Nobody knows what lies beyond the universe. When the Bible was written, nobody knew what lied beyond the moon. Nobody knew the world was round. Why can't we be satisfied not knowing? Why would you believe the stories in the Bible as the absolute truth more than those in the Koran or the one the guy down the street tells you?
Science tells me that wild rats are dirty and carry diseases, just like dog's mouths are cleaner than cat's mouths, etc.
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Jul 4, 2008 13:05:49 GMT -5
In part I agree with saunterelle. Religion is a belief system, no proof that any one religion is the "right" religion, or that any of it is true.
I do however respect those who have strong religious values, and I think it is good for people to have something to believe in that is bigger than themselves. I think inner peace is found when one looks to a higher power, and it can't be a bad thing to think that when passing on one goes to a place that is loving and calm. If religion (generally speaking) can keep people honest and moral I think that is another positive.
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Post by crossride on Jul 4, 2008 18:12:05 GMT -5
Seems to me that the "offended" Muslims are completely intolerant of the views of the rest of society who think puppies are cute, and police dogs are valuable.
Such religious based attitudes are nuts!
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Post by The New Guy on Jul 4, 2008 21:15:08 GMT -5
Nobody knows what lies beyond the universe. exactly! thanks for reitterating my point.  |
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Post by n0spam4me on Jul 6, 2008 18:53:24 GMT -5
space, the final frontier
that is the space between the human ears!
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Post by bolverk on Jul 7, 2008 12:56:33 GMT -5
You can argue that society needs religion to control a population, but you can't argue that religion isn't nuts when it's based on blind faith. And yet you put your blind faith with Obama, and untested politician who lied to get his very first job in politics. |
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Post by crossride on Jul 7, 2008 16:42:58 GMT -5
This blind faith angle is quite interesting. Religion is all about blind faith. Politics aren’t always about blind faith, but certainly can be. In the case of Obama, you have actual actions and words to base your faith on, or you can feel that there are not enough actions or words to go on. You can use the actions and words to support your faith in him, or use the same actions and words, or lack thereof, to support your position that he is not one to follow. It all in the interpretation. Like when Obama says he is for change. There are those whose blind faith in Obama tells them that he will do good for them by making the change happen. There are others who look for proof, or evidence, of what that change will be. They see that such change is not good, or they see nothing to support what this change might be, so they do not follow. I don’t mind someone who just sees something differently, as long as there is something tangible… more than blind faith, behind their belief.
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Post by The New Guy on Jul 7, 2008 23:59:15 GMT -5
faith is believing in something you can't prove. i have faith that the sun will come up tomorrow although i don't know for sure that it will.
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Post by crossride on Jul 8, 2008 8:30:19 GMT -5
I believe that the sun will come up tomorrow and there is some factual basis for that belief, not just blind faith. It comes up every day as the earth rotates on its axis. Scientific proof!
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Jul 8, 2008 10:43:41 GMT -5
TNG, crossride makes a good point!
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Post by nufsaid on Jul 8, 2008 14:01:16 GMT -5
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