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Post by subdjoe on Mar 22, 2009 22:29:52 GMT -5
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Post by barneyfife on Mar 23, 2009 14:17:32 GMT -5
How can you guys say Climate Change isn't true? Don't you see the effects? they are everywhere! Climate Change is making the weather do strange things. Sea levels are rising and getting warmer. Polar bears are dying because their ice is melting. And man doesn't care. We just keep polluting the air. So I take it you did not read one single quote posted, by ACCREDITED PROFESSIONALS ? Or even just the ONE from the PHD/Expert on GREENHOUSE GASSES? |
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bleve
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Post by bleve on Mar 24, 2009 8:44:46 GMT -5
The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit
The evolution of any political body becomes mired in concrete. Several years ago the "consensus" was by UN employees that were asked to validate their required written contributions. A medical trained professional - Doctor of medicine PHD commented on the subject of purpose. In this case, medicine. Out of several thousand experts-PHD's etc. 1/10 were experts in meteorology/climate.
PHD's of meteorology that questioned the panel conclusion were censored - eventually pressured to leave. Virtually all participants of the UN climate research are on a payroll. All U.S. climate - meteorology scientist that establish direction/policy are on a government payroll like NASA or UC Berkeley. The U.S. funds most of the UN climate business. This payroll is controlled by Congress. What Congress wants, Congress gets. Unless of course the people revolt against Congress.
All temperatures in the United States that are 'official' have been a product of electronic measuring for several decades, satellites included. These instruments do not actually measure temperature like a mercury thermometer. Thermometers are the origins of BASE line historical data. The first satellites/electronic surface stations needed some form of conversion adjustment to reflect the base line thermometer data. A government employee did this conversion based on a model. Unknown to the originator in the 1970's, the electronic sensors deteriorate over time. Like a battery powered watch that works fine for a long time and then becomes unreliable and eventually quits. Kind of like an oxygen sensor on a car. When this deterioration actually began is hypothetical. The deterioration has also been re-mathematically calibrated from the original 'adjustment' of electronic vs thermometer. There are many more tentacles-fingers to this scientific SNAFU with temperature gathering that has been perpetrated by government employees that receive grants and or outright funding from Congress. Honest mistakes are just that while the other component of perpetuating a known mistake within science is wasteful to any culture. Both time and money.
To explore this issue of accurate science vs politics there are several methods of exploration. Surface Station. org is a non government funded volunteer attempt to scientifically validate the BASE electronic temperature data gathering accuracy. Surface station apparatus site errors may be a contributor to what is government published as BASE data.
Within in the Bush Administration there may be many people that have lied to save some political value. The current head of IPCC is a product of a Pres. Bush announcing the word (climate) Change to (climate) Warming compromise was granted to him by changing the hard line Chair of IPCC with the moderate person Pachauri. Half truths will become a full lie. The Obama Administration may be doing the same. Government employment no longer requires integrity - pursuit of knowledge. Pavlov and the feeding trough.
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Post by The New Guy on Mar 24, 2009 13:55:37 GMT -5
welcome, bleve.
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sunny
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Post by sunny on Mar 28, 2009 13:04:13 GMT -5
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Post by harpman1 on Mar 28, 2009 14:36:48 GMT -5
I'll be celebrating by turning on every light in the house.
And lighting all 4 fireplaces.
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Post by The Avenger on Mar 28, 2009 18:03:23 GMT -5
Don't forget to burn a pile of old tires in your backyard. I'll be celebrating Human Achievement Hour instead. |
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