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Post by bolverk on Jul 7, 2008 11:28:50 GMT -5
I am curious as to how n0spam4me will reply.
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Post by jgaffney on Jul 7, 2008 12:04:25 GMT -5
I am curious to see if NoSpam will reply.
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Post by The New Guy on Jul 8, 2008 0:01:26 GMT -5
awful quiet around here.......................cricket, cricket....
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Post by The New Guy on Jul 8, 2008 0:05:39 GMT -5
did you guys notice that the evil bush/cheney team has conjured up another hurricane? yesh, i guess george and dick said the magic words and sprinkled some potion over the atlantic and whipped up another storm. i wonder which chocolate city they are targeting this time.
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Post by n0spam4me on Jul 8, 2008 15:51:54 GMT -5
"he was not where the attacks were happening so he sure was safe" Ya, right, given that in any attack situation and Andrew Card did tell Bush "America is under attack" The COMMANDER in CHIEF is a TARGET, unless Bush knew for sure the exact scope of the attack, he should have considered himself to be a target and as such why stay at the school and draw fire their direction.
Also, on the subject of WHY the WTC and the PENTAGON ... I'll not speculate. say if in any big city some homeless person finds a body in a dumpster, now with no more information than they have a body, the POLICE start an investigation. What I see a lot of the supporters of the Bush administration doing is raising questions and then I'm screwed one way or the other because if I do speculate, the argument gets dragged off on a tangent never to see facts again.... and if I refuse to speculate the supporters of Bush will just say look we don't have anything to go on here so why bother.
If I may, I'd like to bring up an analogy .... If you observed on the road, a mini ramming an 18 wheeler head-on and both vehicles are reduced to heaps of small bits, you would probably say that is just tooooo strange. no? There are things that defy the laws of physics and most people will recognize such an event if they saw it... HOWEVER with the events of 9/11/2001 what we are being told about what happened doesn't add up!
Are there any concerned AMERICAS reading this board? or just people loyal to MAD KING GEORGE?
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Post by bolverk on Jul 8, 2008 15:57:39 GMT -5
"he was not where the attacks were happening so he sure was safe" Ya, right, given that in any attack situation and Andrew Card did tell Bush "America is under attack" The COMMANDER in CHIEF is a TARGET, unless Bush knew for sure the exact scope of the attack, he should have considered himself to be a target and as such why stay at the school and draw fire their direction. Also, on the subject of WHY the WTC and the PENTAGON ... I'll not speculate. say if in any big city some homeless person finds a body in a dumpster, now with no more information than they have a body, the POLICE start an investigation. What I see a lot of the supporters of the Bush administration doing is raising questions and then I'm screwed one way or the other because if I do speculate, the argument gets dragged off on a tangent never to see facts again.... and if I refuse to speculate the supporters of Bush will just say look we don't have anything to go on here so why bother. If I may, I'd like to bring up an analogy .... If you observed on the road, a mini ramming an 18 wheeler head-on and both vehicles are reduced to heaps of small bits, you would probably say that is just tooooo strange. no? There are things that defy the laws of physics and most people will recognize such an event if they saw it... HOWEVER with the events of 9/11/2001 what we are being told about what happened doesn't add up! Are there any concerned AMERICAS reading this board? or just people loyal to MAD KING GEORGE? The only Mad King George is the Democrat Party. The same party that wants big brother to control your thermostat in your house. Of course, conspiracy nut jobs, like yourself, will always have the edge, because you don't base anything in facts, just speculation.
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Post by bolverk on Jul 8, 2008 16:01:45 GMT -5
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Post by crossride on Jul 8, 2008 17:27:45 GMT -5
Why is it that the true nut jobs have so little command of the English language?
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Post by The Big Dog on Jul 8, 2008 18:17:02 GMT -5
"he was not where the attacks were happening so he sure was safe" Ya, right, given that in any attack situation and Andrew Card did tell Bush "America is under attack" The COMMANDER in CHIEF is a TARGET, unless Bush knew for sure the exact scope of the attack, he should have considered himself to be a target and as such why stay at the school and draw fire their direction. One man, even the Commander in Chief, was not the target. That is, generally speaking, not what terrorists do. They are very much into symbolism. The 9/11 attacks were intended to cause massive disruption to our government and economy. The WTC towers, as symbols of America's economic power, were targeted just as they were in 1993. The Pentagon... the seat of US Military power, pretty natural symbolic target. And let's not forget that Flight 93 was targeted on the Capitol building, the global symbol in many ways of US power and the symbolic seat of government. You don't have to, I solved the riddle for you above. So then you are indeed proposing that the airplane strikes on the WTC buildings were not the root cause of their collapse? If so, I'd recommend a basis level course in structural engineering. There are indeed concerned Americans reading this board. I am one of them. And I am so concerned with the election, the continuing prosecution of the war on global Islamic terrorism, the economy, gas prices, and government encroachment on my freedoms that I don't have a lot of time to spend considering that which has been investigated, considered and well explained across a variety of scientific and professional disciplines.
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Post by The New Guy on Jul 8, 2008 19:06:11 GMT -5
continuing to play devil's advocate here: 1. why WTC and the pentagon? why not the statue of liberty or disneyland or a thousand other possible targets that might have been easier to "pull off?" 2. why use commercial aircraft? why not just plant a truck bomb like WTC 1993? seems like that would be much easier for dick cheney to do rather than coordinate all these planes, right? 3. why kill so many people in order to "get us into war?" the japs only killed 2,000 or so in pearl harbor and that got us into the biggest war in history. looks like katschung has returned and at least this time he speaks english and participates. once again you have conveniently chosen not to answer these or any other question posed to you in this thread. i guess it's much easier to "not speculate" although your wild speculation is what brought this on in the first place.
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Post by n0spam4me on Jul 8, 2008 22:02:25 GMT -5
"looks like katschung has returned and at least this time he speaks english and participates."
who or what is Katschung?
Also, I've been invited to speculate as to WHY the Pentagon, WTC ... or?
Not going there! WE have a multitude of clues, the Bush regime is using 9/11/2001 as an excuse to trample civil rights, and rip-off the AMERICAN public! There are an abundance of red-flags, note that Bush/Cheney REFUSED to testify publicly but had to have a SECRET session with the 9/11 commission and no transcript or notes from that session exist.
The biggest smoking gun (to me at least) is the Air defense stand down. It is obvious that somebody exploited the fact that there where drills going on that morning and engineered a failure to shift from Drill mode to real mode and not only that but our military failed to shift from peace time mode to WE ARE UNDER ATTACK mode. when the second hit to the WTC happened, Andrew Card told Bush "America is under attack" If Andrew Card had that INFORMATION, and it was certain 'nuff to tell the President, then our Military had that info also, except they where still playing games orchestrated by Richard Cheney. WE THE PEOPLE have evidence 'nuff to at the very least begin an INVESTIGATION however the Judiciary Committee is still sitting on its hands!
Have you expressed yourself to your representatives? They need to know we are not asleep here!
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Post by Mink on Jul 8, 2008 22:13:21 GMT -5
n0spam4me, I am not or never have been in the military, but from what you have brought up regarding "attack mode", makes perfect sense. We should be on our best guard at home. If anyone was protected, it was Dick Cheney, not the president at the time of 9/11. The administration knew of the threats, yet Bush continued to read "My Pet Goat". He should have excused himself calmly and politely and did what a president does......but that didn't happen here! Yes, I have been questioning as we should be. Should it matter that it was Bush? Could it have been Clinton? Hello, it happened! Lookie what's happened since!!! More of an outrage if you ask me!!!
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