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Post by The New Guy on May 20, 2009 23:21:34 GMT -5
for the first time in my adult life i am proud of my state. well.... sort of. we the people finally recognized that sacramento needs to pull away from the teat and start living within their means like the rest of us do. May 19th ballot results
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Post by capttankona on May 21, 2009 13:26:25 GMT -5
Now if only we can get the entrenched party out of there and get some real "Change" in this state. Not that false "Change" we were promised six months ago.
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Post by saunterelle on May 21, 2009 13:32:02 GMT -5
It was a Republican (Schwarzenegger) who failed to bring change to California. The Democrats have done a much better job over the years. It makes me long for the day of Gray Davis.
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Post by capttankona on May 21, 2009 14:35:50 GMT -5
Of course you would blame SchwarzenSchriver, because you want socialism. The very ideologoy that has caused this very state to grind to a hault. Have you not been paying attention at all?
Arny did his duty, he submitted his budget recommendations on time, every year, according to his constitutional mandate.
In last years budget crisis, the Republicans in the State Assembly and Senate voted against every tax increase and for cutting the budget and living with in our means. With some minor exceptions.
In last years budget crisis, the Democrats in the State Assembly and Senate voted for every tax increase and against cutting the budget and living with in our means. Without exception, because they march lock step, just like the good little socialists they are. They are the spend and taxers. Spend first and then tax to make up the shortfalls.
Yet, some how in your pathetic little world, you see something no one else in this state sees. That Arnold somehow manipulated the Democrat party to vote for socialim for the last thirty years, disregard the prosperity of the State and her people and come up with some utterly ridiculous, unsustainable laws and pension plans. And Arnold somehow accomplished all of this before he even knew he was going to run for governor.
I believe that those of us on this forum, who still have some conginzant cababilities, understand implicitly that you are grasping at straws. Either that or you are so far removed from reality that you should be insititutionalized for your own safety.
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Post by The Big Dog on May 21, 2009 14:37:54 GMT -5
It was a Republican (Schwarzenegger) who failed to bring change to California. The Democrats have done a much better job over the years. It makes me long for the day of Gray Davis. I think you need to retake high school government. The Democrats have dominated the Legislature, which controls the purse strings, for decades. That Californians tend to elect Republican governors seems like more of a check and balance than anything else. Schwarzenegger did bring change to California. He took the profligate budgeteering of Gray Davis, got in bed with the leftist Democrats who run the Legislature and their public employee union paymasters, and brought real change to California. The shrivelled prick signed off on exponentially larger spending than Gray Davis already had... knowing (as did Davis) that the money was not there to pay for it. He has clumsily bungled from one disaster to the next, getting himself rolled by those same Democrats each and every time. Schwarzenegger deserves to have his political teeth kicked in for ever suggesting that he is any kind of a "fiscal conservative". He is an asshat dilletante and should have been an example about just how dangerous it is to elect a chief executive with a thin resume. But we went ahead and elected Barack anyway.... whose resume was even thinner than Arnold's. Flush out your headgear Saunterelle... this is so far beyond petty partisan politics that it isn't funny. And if you can't recognize the root cause then you are, ultimately, part of the problem and not part of the solution.
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Post by capttankona on May 21, 2009 14:42:40 GMT -5
I agree with you TBD. Arnold has been so complacent that he appears duplicitous. He is a terrible Governor.
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Post by The New Guy on May 22, 2009 0:50:52 GMT -5
something tells me that santurelle voted straight YESes on tuesday.
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Post by The Avenger on May 23, 2009 2:53:54 GMT -5
It's just damn shameful that Sacramento created these stupid ass ballot measures designed to get our "approval" to raise taxes even more to fund the bullshit programs they run.
Now that they have been handily defeated Sacramento wants us to believe that we got it all wrong. Such arrogant bastards. Don't they know they work for us?
Time for the torches and pichforks, I say!
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Post by capttankona on May 26, 2009 13:35:12 GMT -5
It's just damn shameful that Sacramento created these stupid ass ballot measures designed to get our "approval" to raise taxes even more to fund the bullshit programs they run. Now that they have been handily defeated Sacramento wants us to believe that we got it all wrong. Such arrogant bastards. Don't they know they work for us? Time for the torches and pichforks, I say! No, they don't know they work for us. Like saunterelle, they believe it is the other way around. Time to show them how wrong they are.
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Post by The Big Dog on May 26, 2009 13:53:53 GMT -5
Here is the easiest solution that takes care of the problem in phases... in next years election when all of the Assembly and one third of the Senate are up for re-election, don't vote for the incumbent.
Do this for a couple election cycles and combined with term limits, the message gets made to these yayhoos loud and clear.
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Post by jgaffney on May 26, 2009 14:40:36 GMT -5
It was a Republican (Schwarzenegger) who failed to bring change to California. The Democrats have done a much better job over the years. It makes me long for the day of Gray Davis.
Saunterelle, go read my post, Your Legislature in Action under "State and Local Politics." Then come back here and tell us again what a good job the Democrats in Sacramento have been doing.
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Post by capttankona on May 26, 2009 16:15:13 GMT -5
Here is the easiest solution that takes care of the problem in phases... in next years election when all of the Assembly and one third of the Senate are up for re-election, don't vote for the incumbent. Do this for a couple election cycles and combined with term limits, the message gets made to these yayhoos loud and clear. As an added bit of advice, make sure you do not vote for someone who has been groomed for the office by an incumbent or someone being termed out either. The only way to change the attitudes in Sacramento is to get rid of the status quo.
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