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Post by saunterelle on Jun 1, 2009 0:58:10 GMT -5
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Post by subdjoe on Jun 1, 2009 2:34:10 GMT -5
No, it was not, as the lie in your topic line says, TerroristS. It was a single deranged thug. But, hey, your boy barry hung out with REAL terroists, ones who planted bombs and staged ambushes of cops. You seem to have no problem with that.
And this was the first incident in, what 3 or 4 years? And the last before that had been about 6? (just going off the top of my head, I know that I'm close). Face it, Ella, there is not big xtian terroist conspiracy like you dream about.
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Post by saunterelle on Jun 1, 2009 10:06:56 GMT -5
This wasn't the first time the doctor had been attacked. His practice has been the site of repeated protests for about two decades. A protester shot Tiller in both arms in 1993, and his clinic was bombed in 1985.
The man who carried out this heinous act was probably "a member of the anti-government Freemen group, an organization that kept the FBI at bay in Jordan, Mont., for almost three months in 1995-96." It was an act that was sparred on by many domestic terrorists. Dr. Tiller's name was at the top of an "assassination list."
Dr. Warren Hern denounced Tiller's killing as the "inevitable and predictable consequence of decades of anti-abortion" rhetoric and violence.
"Dr. Tiller's assassination is not the lone and inexplicable action of one deranged killer," Hern said Sunday. "This was a political assassination in a historic pattern of anti-abortion political violence. It was terrorism."
"The last killing of an abortion doctor was in October 1998 when Dr. Barnett Slepian was fatally shot in his home in a suburb of Buffalo, N.Y. A militant abortion opponent was convicted of the murder.
Federal marshals protected Tiller during the 1991 Summer of Mercy protests, and he was protected again between 1994 and 1998 after another abortion provider was assassinated and federal authorities reported finding Tiller's name at the top of an assassination list."
Do you have any doubt this was domestic terrorism?
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Post by subdjoe on Jun 1, 2009 10:28:14 GMT -5
Thank you for confirming my statement that it was a lone thug, and not "christian terroirists." And that these incidents afe few and far between. Since this one guy was targeted several times, seems more like an act of personal revenge than anything else. So, yes, I doubt very much that this is domestic terrorism. If you want to find out about that, just ask Barry to help your out, he is good friends with a true domestic terrorist.
By your theory, jsut about every antiwar protest is an act of "domestic terrorism" because of the violence that almost alway is involved.
Oh, wait. I forgot that by Barrys presidential fiat anyone who is against abortion is automatically a terrorist.
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Post by saunterelle on Jun 1, 2009 12:46:51 GMT -5
You are not making much sense.
This good doctor has been harassed for decades by Right-wing Christian terrorist thugs! They shot him in both arms in 1993, and his clinic was bombed in 1985. His death was the "inevitable and predictable consequence of decades of anti-abortion rhetoric and violence." It was a collaborative effort despite your denial.
Uh, no. He was at the top of the Christian-extremist "assassination list." That is why he was targeted several times by these ignorant thugs.
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Post by saunterelle on Jun 1, 2009 13:05:12 GMT -5
Ah, so now you are parroting Sarah Palin's claim that helped lose her the election? They are "good friends? Really? Prove it!
Even if you could prove they are "good freinds," which you can't, Obama was 9 years old when Bill Ayers was part of the Weather Underground. Now, Bill Ayers is an upstanding member of his community and a well-regarded college professor. He is not a terrorist in any way.
Lets see you back up your ridiculous claim with facts. How many people have been shot and killed by anti-war protesters?
Ludicrous statement.
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Post by capttankona on Jun 1, 2009 14:54:19 GMT -5
You should pick better heroes saunterelle. I will not shed a tear for Stiller. The real terrorist was caught today, you know, the guy who shot our real heroes, those who fight for everyone. |
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Post by The Big Dog on Jun 1, 2009 15:51:00 GMT -5
Will someone please pass the Kool-Aid, I'll take an extra dollop of strychnine in mine please. I am fed up with the non-stop, pathological and utterly pointless hatred that is constantly fomented by the modern left in this country to try and gain some form of political advantage.
Words don't often fail me Saunterelle but in this case I find it very difficult to respond in a rational and adult manner to your spew. However, this is a discussion board so I'll give it a try.
I believe I have mentioned it before, but for the sake of the discussion I am a pro-choice Republican, as well as a religious agnostic. I do not find fault with anyone's belief system as concerns faith, whether you want to praise the lord from the highest mountain or damn him as some imaginary bogeyman as atheists such as yourself do. You can believe what you want as concerns faith and I'll believe what I want, no skin off my nose either way.
I draw the line, however, at the barbarity that was the principle portion of Dr. Tiller's practice. Late term, like seventh, eighth and ninth month, abortions where the fetus would be viable outside of the womb are infanticide, so far as I am concerned. The practice turns on a minor twist of law... that is that if the fetus never draws breath, it can't be a homicide in the legal definition of that act. But the partial delivery and immediate insertion of a sharp surgical instrument into the brain stem pretty much assures that the fetus never has a chance to draw that one breath, doesn't it. That barbarity, carried out with the cool precision of a death chamber in a concentration camp, is what you are supporting.
The murder of anyone is wrong... whether it's Dr. Tiller being shot by some fanatic or his own fanatical practice abetted by an army of ignorant, dehumanized peckerheads such as yourself.
The only thing ludicrous in this entire thread is your jingoistic, hate driven position that this is all part of some grand religious conspiracy.
You are a worthless, dehumanized being. For all your education and never ending supply of self serving BS, you are nothing more than than that. You should, at this point of your existence, be thankful that your parents did not decide that you were too much trouble and have Dr. Tiller or some other doctor like him stick a scalpel in your brain stem. There but for the grace of whatever, goes you.
But that thought probably would never enter your mind, since it's too busy being filled with hatred, lies, innuendo and your own self initiated swelled head over how smart and enlightened you are.
Enjoy your day... you troll.
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Post by capttankona on Jun 1, 2009 16:08:37 GMT -5
Very well put TBD. I commend you.
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Post by harpman1 on Jun 1, 2009 16:23:52 GMT -5
Tiller got what he deserved.
Justice is a funny thing.
OJ walked for 2 murders, yet is in jail for being a moronic thug.
This killer in Kansas(the one with the gun, not the one with the scissors)will face justice here and in the beyond.
What he gets here will be in all the papers.
The other, well, you'll have to be there to see.
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Post by harpman1 on Jun 1, 2009 16:25:06 GMT -5
How many innocent people died at that church?
One?
Just a bit different than our friends, the Muslims.
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Post by crossride on Jun 1, 2009 16:52:29 GMT -5
Tiller got what he deserved. Justice is a funny thing. We should not celebrate, or diminish, the killing of someone simply because he was performing a legal act that we just don't agree with. |
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