Christian terrorists strike in America's heartland

[harpman1]

True, but who can deny that justice is a funny thing?

Segregation was legal.

Poll taxes were legal.

Heroin was legal.

Were they all morally wrong?

[capttankona]

Jun 1, 2009 16:52:29 GMT -5 crossride said:

Jun 1, 2009 16:23:52 GMT -5 harpman1 said:

Tiller got what he deserved.

Justice is a funny thing.

We should not celebrate, or diminish, the killing of someone simply because he was performing a legal act that we just don't agree with.

Not even Pol Pot, Idi Amin Dada Oumee, Mao, Hitler, Che Guevera, Pham Van Dong, Kim Il Jong, Castro or Stalin?

[harpman1]

All the things they did were legal as well.

Just ask 'em!

[The Big Dog]

Jun 1, 2009 16:52:29 GMT -5 crossride said:

We should not celebrate, or diminish, the killing of someone simply because he was performing a legal act that we just don't agree with.

I'll leave justice to the State of Kansas. What the shooter did was wrong, however good his intentions (at least in his own mind) might have been. That Kansas has no death penalty is probably a good thing for the suspect in this caper. If he gets life without parole, then that will just have to do.

I disagree strongly with Dr. Tiller's particular practice. But I disagree even more strongly with a cold blooded assassination, in the vestibule of a church or otherwise.

[capttankona]

Notice how the abortion doctor grabs all the headlines? Yet those who protect this Nation get second page coverage.

Recruiter Shot Dead Outside Army Office, by a muslim convert no less.

[capttankona]

Jun 1, 2009 18:17:56 GMT -5 The Big Dog said:

Jun 1, 2009 16:52:29 GMT -5 crossride said:

We should not celebrate, or diminish, the killing of someone simply because he was performing a legal act that we just don't agree with.

I'll leave justice to the State of Kansas. What the shooter did was wrong, however good his intentions (at least in his own mind) might have been. That Kansas has no death penalty is probably a good thing for the suspect in this caper. If he gets life without parole, then that will just have to do.

I disagree strongly with Dr. Tiller's particular practice. But I disagree even more strongly with a cold blooded assassination, in the vestibule of a church or otherwise.

Very well put. The actions of the Doctor do not excuse the actions of the assian.

[crossride]

Jun 1, 2009 17:21:06 GMT -5 capttankona said:

Jun 1, 2009 16:52:29 GMT -5 crossride said:

We should not celebrate, or diminish, the killing of someone simply because he was performing a legal act that we just don't agree with.

Not even Pol Pot, Idi Amin Dada Oumee, Mao, Hitler, Che Guevera, Pham Van Dong, Kim Il Jong, Castro or Stalin?

Yes but the doctor did not lead a nation and have the same type of power backing him up. This is a civilized country where we change laws and make policy to fix what's wrong. What is the reason why multiple white house administrations, multiple congressional majorities, and the supreme court have left Roe V Wade intact all these years? Yeah, I'm very strict law and order and I don't feel we can justify an illegal act because we don't agree with the legal act, especially when "WE" have had so many years to change the laws.

[capttankona]

I am not condoning the actions of the mentally ill man who shot him. But, I would not begrudge a person the right to celebrate his demise. For some, it was probably a relief knowing this man was no longer able to perform these abortions. Now, some of the abortions may well have been appropriate, even at such late term. So the real question to me is how many of them crossed the line.

I don't like the idea of late term abortions, however, when necessary I would be willing to approve. One would like to believe those instances are very rare though. So, in the interest of justice and respect, I am going to avoid this emotional topic. I'll let saunterelle do all the talking and claiming a mentally ill man is a terrorist.

[jgaffney]

Jun 1, 2009 0:58:10 GMT -5 saunterelle said:

This sort of terrorism in the name of religion must be stopped!

Isn't it interesting that, when a wacko strikes against an abortion provider, it is characterized by the pro-choice ("anti-life"?) factions as terrorism? Even the PeeDee chimes in with this morning's op-ed from the Boston Globe:

Officials are saying they believe the killing of Kansas abortion provider Dr. George Tiller during church services Sunday morning was "the act of an isolated individual." Perhaps. But the generalized culture of violence and hate in the antiabortion movement that feeds the fanaticism of disturbed individuals with guns is not so easily explained away.

For years organized abortion opponents had demonized Tiller, who was one of the only doctors in the country providing late-term abortions, as a "murderer" and "a monster," an "evil man," someone "with blood on his hands." Even after murder suspect Scott Roeder was arrested Sunday, an antiabortion activist who runs Prayer and Action News, a newsletter Roeder reportedly contributed to, would not call his alleged actions a crime. "There is Christian scripture that would support this," he said.

Yet, in the same paper today, the PeeDee is careful to point out that the recruiting office killer was not connected to anything else. This is from the AP:

A Muslim convert "with political and religious motives" shot two uniformed soldiers outside an Arkansas military recruiting center Monday, killing one and wounding the other, authorities said.

Police arrested Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, 23, on a nearby interstate shortly after the bloodshed at the Army-Navy Career Center in a shopping center in west Little Rock. Three guns were found in his SUV, they said.

He will be charged with first-degree murder, plus 15 counts of committing a terroristic act, authorities said.

But they stressed there was no evidence of a broader plot, saying they believed "political and religious motives" were behind the attack.

Oh, well as long as it's only "political and religious motives"! I think I see an anti-gun movement brewing here.