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Post by saunterelle on Jun 15, 2009 14:01:09 GMT -5
This issue gets in to civil rights and the decision is up to the courts. Just as they went against popular opinion to allow interracial marriage, they are allowed to rule on gay marriage too. I accept whatever ruling they hand down on the issue, whether I agree with it or not.
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Post by subdjoe on Jun 15, 2009 14:05:59 GMT -5
This issue gets in to civil rights and the decision is up to the courts. Just as they went against popular opinion to allow interracial marriage, they are allowed to rule on gay marriage too. I accept whatever ruling they hand down on the issue, whether I agree with it or not. Ah, good. So since the 9th Circuit has ruled that the RKBA is incorporated to the states, then there is no restriction on that particular civil right. So I'm free to buy a Ma Duce or a real Kalasnikov, right? |
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Post by jgaffney on Jun 15, 2009 14:29:45 GMT -5
Just make sure it says "Made in Montana" on it!
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Post by capttankona on Jun 15, 2009 14:44:11 GMT -5
Here is what Einstein had to say on the matter of God: " It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly." You can clearly see that he did not believe in a personal God, and therefore did not believe in the Judeo-Christian form of God. I do not believe in "nothing." I simply do not know what the truth is and neither do you. For you to believe in a Christian (or any organized religion's) absolutist view of God is naive. You can't admit that you don't know what's really out there! I am not attacking the man's beliefs. I am repelling his attempts to establish his religion as "our country's religion" I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings. Albert Einstein A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man. Albert Einstein God may be subtle, but He isn't plain mean. Albert Einstein What really interests me is whether God had any choice in the creation of the world. Albert Einstein I want to know all Gods thoughts; all the rest are just details. Albert Einstein Unlike you, Einstein believed in God. He just had no use for organized religion. He did not believe God was vengenful or that God was playing dice with the world or humanity. To put in the very words Albert Einstein said, "I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil." But, he believed in God, none the less. Also, I am calling you a liar, you attack people and entire faiths all the time, calling them unrealistic, beliving in fair tales, etc. Everyone here has read your disgusting take on the faith of others. Then you turn around and lie about what you said. You have zero honor. |
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Post by capttankona on Jun 15, 2009 14:47:25 GMT -5
There is zero scientific evidence that God does or does not exist. Just as there is ZERO scientific evidence that bigfoot or the loch ness monster do or do not exist? Of course at some point there was zero scientific evidence that oxygen was part of water, but someone proved it to be the case. It just seems to me that if something this important CAN BE proven, it would have. I just like to stick to the fact that God is within those who have faith, and however they wish to express it is fine by me. Funny how Saunterelle takes the stance about if its not proven fact, it should not be forced upon us. Since there is also zero proven evidence that Obama will "fix the country", but we are "forced" to accept that he is?? My only point is that it is wrong for saunterelle to attack people for their beliefs. I am personally more of a Deist. |
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Post by saunterelle on Jun 15, 2009 14:47:34 GMT -5
In other words, he did not believe in a Judeo-Christian God, so your argument is nil.
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Post by harpman1 on Jun 15, 2009 14:50:00 GMT -5
There is no separation of church and state in the Constitution.
Courts have said there is, but the clause cannot be found.
Perhaps it was under the emanations and penumbras portion.
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Post by capttankona on Jun 15, 2009 14:54:18 GMT -5
In other words, he did not believe in a Judeo-Christian God, so your argument is nil. Wow, what a leap. Hey everyone, did you read this tripe? Where did I ever say that Albert Einstein believed in a Judeo-Christian God? No where. All I have ever said is that Einstein believed in God. I also said he believes in life after death, because no energy can ever be destroyed. Gee, you have believed in neither. That is my whole point. This man, a known genius, has more faith then you do. And, that your lack of belief merely means you cannot back our Declaration of Independence, since it bases our Natural Rights on Natures Creator. You do not believe in a Creator, Einstein did. So how is my argument "nil" if I never claimed Einstein was a dyed in the wool Judeo Christian? I can't wait to hear your weak explanation for that. |
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Post by saunterelle on Jun 15, 2009 15:26:04 GMT -5
You keep failing to grasp my beliefs. I have simply said "I don't know." This leaves open the possibility that God can exist but I haven't seen any proof that they do. Why do you keep calling me an atheist when I'm not?
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Post by capttankona on Jun 15, 2009 15:38:35 GMT -5
You keep failing to grasp my beliefs. I have simply said "I don't know." This leaves open the possibility that God can exist but I haven't seen any proof that they do. Why do you keep calling me an atheist when I'm not? No, that is a lie. You have attacked the religious, actually using the word superstitions to describe them in some of your posts. Everyone on this board knows it too. You are a liar. And, if I have ever called you an "atheist" it was based on the information you posted. You have in some post unequivocally denied the existence of God. That is atheism. |
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Post by capttankona on Jun 15, 2009 15:39:48 GMT -5
Oh, and you have never simply said, "I don't know." Like most politicians, you are spinning the truth. Plainly put, you are a liar.
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Post by harpman1 on Jun 15, 2009 16:00:21 GMT -5
Classic indecision re: your most basic concept of life and the universe.
"I don't know" is a cowards way to avoid a difficult choice of which road are you gonna travel.
It allows you to denigrate all the faithful, while claiming "not me" when owned as an atheist.
Having it both ways means you have it no way.
The religious don't trust you and neither do the faithless.
Congratulations!
You're on the losing team. Alone.
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