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Post by subdjoe on Sept 14, 2009 22:25:08 GMT -5
Thanks, but no thanks. I checked this out on you tube and all this project is, is another mass tea party protest. Yeah, it can't be a REAL grass roots or populist protest unless it is backed by Code Pink or MoveOn Rucus or Recreate68, or some other finge left group. In DC this weekend were signs that really were protesting reasonably, but then there were also many that took away from the 12 values by racial implications. Go figure, but then again, Glenn Beck and Fox are behind it. America has much more to learn.....well, maybe in another 100 years, sigh. edited to add: The person who held a sign reading " bury Obamacare with Kennedy" is not a real American, BTW! That was tacky, disrespectful and downright inexcusable.
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And of course, no peaceful leftist protest is complete or valid without a few scenes such as
and for good measure throw in rocks thrown at cars and buses, cars torched, and stores looted. Then you have REAL protest peaceful, grassroots protest.
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Post by Mink on Sept 15, 2009 1:05:33 GMT -5
The point of the 9/12 project is to follow guidelines and/or certain values, is what I read here, but were not practiced. Why pretend to be a better group yet act just as insane?
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Post by subdjoe on Sept 15, 2009 12:02:10 GMT -5
Ah! so a dozen or so out of a few hundred thousand otherwise peaceful demonstrators taints all. But the regular violent riots thrown by peace protesters is just fine.
Mink I am just pointing out the HYPOCRICY of the leftists like you who suddenly find what you have been doing for 40 years unacceptable. And you are saying that a few stupid signs are exactly the same as cars burned, people beaten, and stores looted.
Better to set some standards and fall a little short than to do as the left and have no standards at all. At least then there is something for which to strive.
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Post by capttankona on Sept 15, 2009 12:28:26 GMT -5
Since Glenn Beck started the project, it makes sense that Fox would be the sole promoter covering it. Promoter? You mean the only news station to give it serious coverage. You would know a grass roots organization if it walked up and kicked you in the seat of your pants. |
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Post by capttankona on Sept 15, 2009 12:30:48 GMT -5
You know subdjoe, I think it is a good thing for the country to always remember 9/11 and the loss we all suffered in whatever way they find. What I find repulsive and detrimental is when those who continue to use the day to wedge a division by insisting some folks are real patriots or real Americans and others are filled with hatred. Yeah, it would be nice if the socialists in this nation all stood up and raised their hands, then we could single them out for the treatment they richly deserve. Oh wait, you are a socialist, aren't you. |
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Post by capttankona on Sept 15, 2009 12:37:07 GMT -5
TNG, if this project has such good intentions,why would Glenn Beck or yourself dare insult or behave in a condescending manner? That is not the American way. If the project is meant to unite the country, it is a good thing to include everyone kindly. Everyone remembers the day of and the day after 9/11 where we were all Americans. We were all Americans prior to 9/11 and to this day. So, now you are the sole proprietor of what is American? I am afraid you have little, if any, understanding of our history, as such statements reveal. I am not a huge Glenn Beck fan, though upon an occasion I watch him and his style is beginning to grow on me. What you see is an experssion of his deep seated patriotism and disgust at people like you who want to tell people like me how to live our lives. People with your lunatic thought process have already made this county unaffordable for our children. You feel you have a right to tell a land owner what he can do with his own property, in order to protect an imagined right that does not exist. |
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Post by capttankona on Sept 15, 2009 12:41:46 GMT -5
Thanks, but no thanks. I checked this out on you tube and all this project is, is another mass tea party protest. In DC this weekend were signs that really were protesting reasonably, but then there were also many that took away from the 12 values by racial implications. Go figure, but then again, Glenn Beck and Fox are behind it. America has much more to learn.....well, maybe in another 100 years, sigh. edited to add: The person who held a sign reading " bury Obamacare with Kennedy" is not a real American, BTW! That was tacky, disrespectful and downright inexcusable. You are truly a disgusting individual. Out of one side of your mouth you say, "both sides have their lunatics," and out of the other side of your mouth you say, "Fox News promoted this and those nasty signs." Nasty signs, by the way, which were in a much smaller proportion to those in leftist rallies against the White House under George W. Bush. And the one sign you are offended by is not offensive. In fact, I agree with the sign and found it to be quite clever. I am glad you were offended by it, because I have been offended by your side of the isle for decades with their endless bad taste and vitriol. |
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Post by capttankona on Sept 15, 2009 12:44:17 GMT -5
The point of the 9/12 project is to follow guidelines and/or certain values, is what I read here, but were not practiced. Why pretend to be a better group yet act just as insane? THE POINT, MINK, IS YOUR INCESSENT HYPOCRISY. |
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Post by capttankona on Sept 15, 2009 12:47:15 GMT -5
Ah! so a dozen or so out of a few hundred thousand otherwise peaceful demonstrators taints all. But the regular violent riots thrown by peace protesters is just fine. Mink I am just pointing out the HYPOCRICY of the leftists like you who suddenly find what you have been doing for 40 years unacceptable. And you are saying that a few stupid signs are exactly the same as cars burned, people beaten, and stores looted. Better to set some standards and fall a little short than to do as the left and have no standards at all. At least then there is something for which to strive. You got it exactly right, the left has no moral standards, so when they protest they do not break them. Mink is a hypocritical pig, as they would have said in the 1960's. Her hypocrisy is so blatant that it is inexcusable. Where is the smite button when you need it. She should be smote from here to the end of time for her vile hypocrisy. |
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Post by Mink on Sept 15, 2009 22:16:44 GMT -5
Ah! so a dozen or so out of a few hundred thousand otherwise peaceful demonstrators taints all. But the regular violent riots thrown by peace protesters is just fine. Mink I am just pointing out the HYPOCRICY of the leftists like you who suddenly find what you have been doing for 40 years unacceptable. And you are saying that a few stupid signs are exactly the same as cars burned, people beaten, and stores looted. Better to set some standards and fall a little short than to do as the left and have no standards at all. At least then there is something for which to strive. I see, so it is fine for you to point out the hypocrisy on the left, but not address it on the right? Psychos come out on both sides and I'll admit there have been those on the left who take it to the limit, but to preach values and not enforce them, is no better. Instead, when it comes to the stupid few on the right, it is viewed as falling short? Let's face it, this project is really a mass protest puppeted masterly by the right-winged pundit/s and conservative politicians to attempt to win back the power they lost and deservedly so. |
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Post by The New Guy on Sept 15, 2009 23:48:25 GMT -5
mink, if you think comparing the left and the right as far as protesting goes is a fair comparison.... you're freakin' crazy. that's not an apples to oranges comparison, it's an apples to comquats comparison.
here are some major differences between the two groups:
one group marches through the streets busting windows, disrupting traffic, and generally terrorizing citizens and bystanders, and leaving a huge mess. the other demonstrates peacefully, causes no disruptions, damages no property, and leaves the venue as clean and litter free as they found it.
one group demands more, more, more.... handouts and entitlements (gimme, gimme, gimme) from government. the other just asks gov't to get the hell out of their way.
one group truly is grassroots. the other is bussed in, given professionally printed signs provided by unions, and is told what to say.
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Post by Mink on Sept 16, 2009 0:00:02 GMT -5
TNG, I wasn't comparing the two groups, subdjoe did as he tried to justify the hypocrisy of the teabaggers dark side....truly not part of the 9/12 values........
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