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Post by JustMyOpinion on Mar 29, 2010 15:34:16 GMT -5
I was doing some research and found the link below. To me, this is the worst of America, maybe some will disagree. I am surprised that CA has so many hate groups, but we are #1 in population so I guess it makes some sense. CA: est 2009 population= 36,961,664, with 60 hate groups. TX: est 2009 population= 24,782,302, with 66 hate groups. MS: est 2009 population= 2,938,618, with 25 hate groups!!! Link:www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-mapI knew the "south" had it's issues, but it looks like many states have mixed hate group types. In my opinion, it is upsetting to think that we are still turning on each other especially when we need to find common ground to stand up against those that wish us harm as a "united" country. Population source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CaliforniaJust a tidbit to share...
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Post by subdjoe on Mar 29, 2010 17:14:16 GMT -5
I wonder if the SPLC lists itself as a hate group? How about the NAACP (which expressed official horror that a white or even an IRISHMAN might be appointed as mayor of Baltimore after the black mayor took up residence in the Greybar for corruption). Or groups like MEChA? And I doubt that they mention that most of the increase in the number of hate groups is mostly due to factional disputes and members splitting off to form new groups. Or that they count the claimed number for each group and don't take into account that one person may belong to several, thus falsely inflating the total membership of the hate groups. Of course, no one but whites can EVER be racist, right? I was doing some research and found the link below. To me, this is the worst of America, maybe some will disagree. I am surprised that CA has so many hate groups, but we are #1 in population so I guess it makes some sense. CA: est 2009 population= 36,961,664, with 60 hate groups. TX: est 2009 population= 24,782,302, with 66 hate groups. MS: est 2009 population= 2,938,618, with 25 hate groups!!! Link:www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-mapI knew the "south" had it's issues, but it looks like many states have mixed hate group types. In my opinion, it is upsetting to think that we are still turning on each other especially when we need to find common ground to stand up against those that wish us harm as a "united" country. Population source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CaliforniaJust a tidbit to share...
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Mar 29, 2010 19:11:18 GMT -5
Actually subdjoe, I was surprised at how many different types of groups there are. I expected the KKK, or the black panthers, or, the skin head kooks, but there were many more. Scary! I don't know about the statistics, I wasn't looking for an EXACT count, the idea that the SPLC even exists says to me that there must be enough people involved with hate groups to even warrant a count in the first place. It would be really narrow minded to think only the white people are racist subdjoe!
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Post by mrbose on Mar 29, 2010 19:20:53 GMT -5
Not suprised by the number of hate groups, only suprised of the lack of non white hate groups ie Black panthers, NAACP,and the Nation of Islam, La Rasa,Republic of New Africa by the way were is the ACLU
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Mar 29, 2010 20:16:49 GMT -5
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Post by mrbose on Mar 29, 2010 21:44:04 GMT -5
Hating requires a lot of work, its much easier to dislike but no trouble at all to get along
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Mar 31, 2010 10:50:46 GMT -5
mrbose, I agree. Life can be so stressful as it is and to always feel so angry and bad just compounds it.
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Post by subdjoe on Mar 31, 2010 23:42:25 GMT -5
Ever notice that whenever "hate groups" are talked about, the images are invariably of some white supremacist group? Wow, FL has a ton and most are in the peninsula (e.g. the more poplutated region of the state not typically associated with southern culture)! The stereotype of FL being mostly "South" in the panhandle region I guess doesn't necessarily associate with the number of hate groups.
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Post by danceswithdogs on Apr 3, 2010 23:12:54 GMT -5
I wonder how many of these hate groups increased in membership with the election of Obama? He does seem to have created more racial tension and not because of his skin color, but because of his radical agenda. The fact the Tea Party folks are attacked by the Left and accused of being racist is an example of how twisted the Left Wing is when it comes to those with whom they disagree. Obama has become a divided, and listening to his rhetoric shows that very clearly. When he gets angry about his agenda being questioned, he dances all around the "racist" terminology, but he puts out that message.
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Post by danceswithdogs on Apr 3, 2010 23:17:34 GMT -5
It is also interesting that even with the $100,000 "reward" out there for any proof of racial epitaphs or spitting that is "alleged" to have been done at the parade of pompous Senators to the alter of Pelosi to vote for the misnamed "health care" bill......not one shred of evidence has been presented. Yet the MSM made a big deal about the "racist Tea Party" participants. Still waiting for evidence. Even the Senator that claimed to have had it happen refuses to be interviewed or offer a statement of proof. Strange. So, who are the racists? You decide.
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Post by jgaffney on Apr 21, 2010 22:31:25 GMT -5
Did Earth Liberation Front make the list?
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Post by jgaffney on Apr 26, 2010 16:22:18 GMT -5
It seems that the Southern Poverty Law Center uses the prism of its own philosophy to judge who is a "hate" group and who is not. For instance, the Jewish Defense League is defined as a "General Hate" group. Many religious groups are clumped under "Radical Traditional Catholicism." The best one is the "damning" quote SPLC has on the American Resistance (check out the website), a "self-styled think tank that promotes pseudo-scientific studies and research that purport to show the inferiority of blacks to whites — although in hifalutin language that avoids open racial slurs and attempts to portray itself as serious scholarship." The SPLC includes this pull quote from American Resistance's publication: In fact, blacks and Hispanics are, compared to whites, far more likely to be poor, illiterate, on welfare, or in jail; they are far more likely to have illegitimate children, be addicted to drugs, or have AIDS. By no definition of international competitiveness can the presence of these populations be anything but a disadvantage. So, the American Resistance draws conclusions from what is probably demographic data, and they are branded a hate group? If I point out that the majority of violent crimes in Sonoma County are committed by persons with Hispanic surnames, does that make me a hater, too? This is another example of a typical liberal response to an issue that they themselves created: brand the person who points out your shortcomings as a racist, and leave it at that. There's no need to actually respond to the issue or take steps to resolve the issue. By labelling your foe as a racist, you are absolved of any responsibility. The Democrats are using the exact same tactic against the conservative, self-identifed tea partiers. By branding the tea party participants as racist, the liberals don't have to respond to issues that the tea partiers raise. To do so would be to admit the general failure of liberalism.
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