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Post by subdjoe on Aug 22, 2008 0:35:32 GMT -5
Why is it the govt. should help? i don;t see anything in the Constitution about govt. helping with vehicles. We should require more research before there are laws passed about giving money or tax breaks to people who use new products. Or politicians mandating that we change our society before they know what the hell they are talking about. I would like to follow the money on the CFL requirement. Where is the money conection between the capon who pushed the legislation and the CFL industry? Just like with the trigger lock law in CA. The lead time between when the legislation was passed and when it went into effect guaranteed that there was only on CA approved lock on the market (there were plenty of locks already on the market, but none had been 'approved' by the omnicient State or met its requirements). And that was produced by a relative of the liberal capon who wrote the bill.
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Post by Mink on Aug 22, 2008 1:03:47 GMT -5
Now I 'm curious...who invented it?
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Post by jgaffney on Oct 1, 2008 0:07:09 GMT -5
Please, let's not go there......especially after the unilateral war on Iraq, ok? That's what I like about you, Mink. You never give up! No matter how many times we prove you wrong, you can still be counted on to trot out the progressive line. How many liberal myths have we dispelled now? I lost count.
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Oct 1, 2008 12:33:23 GMT -5
Yes, another law...
However, I do see the concern and not just for the blind! What about children, or anyone crossing a street, walking behind a car in a parking lot, the sound does alert us that a vehicle is near by. It is alarming to be next to a perfectly quiet car and not realize it is running/moving, think about it.
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Post by The Big Dog on Oct 1, 2008 12:55:21 GMT -5
Perhaps the pedestrians could start by paying attention to their surroundings?
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Oct 1, 2008 14:00:54 GMT -5
Big Dog, that's a given. Reality is people aren't perfect and we generally rely on all of our senses to stay safe, including sound. Children are run over in their own driveways, and parking lots because they are out of visual range for the driver, and if they can't hear a car starting I would assume statistics would rise. I've driven a Prius and they are extremely quiet, and I have been next to them in parking lots and didn't know they were there until I saw them. It's little weird and I can see the potential for danger.
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Post by subdjoe on Oct 1, 2008 16:51:33 GMT -5
And when someone gets run over because they STILL didn't hear the car, do we mandate an increase in the noise level? Some internal combustion engine cars are pretty darned quiet too. Do we mandate that they make more noise?
Back in the early days of automobiles many places required that a man with a red flag walk in front of a motorized carriage to let people know it was coming. Some places required that the motorist stop every 15 min, send up a red signal rocket to warn people, and wait five minutes before proceeding. Sounds like we are heading back to those days.
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Oct 1, 2008 21:10:26 GMT -5
No subdjoe, I think we remain balanced and cars should sound like they always have (with headers capped). No new rocket science here...
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