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Post by maxsawdust on Oct 15, 2008 19:39:56 GMT -5
Big Dog, Amazing post.
I wish I could sum up my thoughts and links as succinctly as you.
Exalted!
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Post by Mink on Oct 15, 2008 19:47:49 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum maxsawdust!  Enjoy the fun!! Our forum doesn't have many rules, but we do try and stick to the topic of the threads we post in. Have a great time  |
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Post by The Big Dog on Oct 15, 2008 20:22:34 GMT -5
Big Dog, Amazing post. I wish I could sum up my thoughts and links as succinctly as you. Exalted! I've been called a lot of things, but succinct has rarely been one of them. I'll thank you sir. |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 16, 2008 11:39:48 GMT -5
Wow, so Mink and sauterelle think that Palin abused her power because she wanted Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan to fire the trooper who tasered his 10 year old step son, but he refused, so she fired him instead. Not only should the trooper have been fired, he should be brought up on child abuse charges. He was getting of easy with just losing his job. And Monegan should not only have been fired, he should not ever get a reference or another government job.
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Post by Mink on Oct 16, 2008 19:57:26 GMT -5
Wow, so Mink and sauterelle think that Palin abused her power because she wanted Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan to fire the trooper who tasered his 10 year old step son, but he refused, so she fired him instead. Not only should the trooper have been fired, he should be brought up on child abuse charges. He was getting of easy with just losing his job. And Monegan should not only have been fired, he should not ever get a reference or another government job. I'll see if I can find the link where the trooper was reprimanded or whatever, which is why they felt no further need for punishment. Regardless, the investigation was bipartisan, with mostly Republicans, who judged. Personally, I think it is unprofessional to have Todd work on behalf of of the Governor as it causes a conflict of interest. |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 17, 2008 12:31:40 GMT -5
It did not cause a conflict of interest to have Hillary Rodahm Clinton work on behalf of the President of the United States. In fact, the Supreme Court verified her as Co-President, if I recall, or at least said there was not a conflict. Why do you hold Todd and Sarah to a higher standard then your own party Mink?
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Post by bolverk on Oct 17, 2008 12:34:00 GMT -5
Oh yeah, a reprimand for Child Abuse. That was a legitimate punishment. Abuse of power and child abuse deserve far greater consequences then a slap on the wrist. Walt Monegan found that out the hard way. He should have done his job then he would still have one. Stop making excuses for an obvious scumbag who tasered his step-son.
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Post by Mink on Oct 17, 2008 21:00:51 GMT -5
It did not cause a conflict of interest to have Hillary Rodahm Clinton work on behalf of the President of the United States. In fact, the Supreme Court verified her as Co-President, if I recall, or at least said there was not a conflict. Why do you hold Todd and Sarah to a higher standard then your own party Mink? Did the Alaska Court system do the same as the Supreme Court did for Hillary? I'm not sure where you are going here bloverk. |
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Post by Mink on Oct 17, 2008 21:12:42 GMT -5
Oh yeah, a reprimand for Child Abuse. That was a legitimate punishment. Abuse of power and child abuse deserve far greater consequences then a slap on the wrist. Walt Monegan found that out the hard way. He should have done his job then he would still have one. Stop making excuses for an obvious scumbag who tasered his step-son. Don't get me wrong here, I don't condone child abuse. Per the Alaska system, it claims this case was handled. Go figure! As for the Palin, she broke ethics laws period. She could have stopped this, but let a personal agenda get in the way of performing her job per her position. |
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Post by The Big Dog on Oct 18, 2008 0:07:21 GMT -5
[ Did the Alaska Court system do the same as the Supreme Court did for Hillary? I'm not sure where you are going here bloverk.I'm not a hundred percent sure where he is going either, but you are off the track yet again. If the United States Supreme Court decides something, then what the Alaska Court system thinks on the same point is not germane, cogent or legally applicable. The courts of the states are inferior in authority to the Supreme Court. End of story. |
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Post by The Big Dog on Oct 18, 2008 0:22:29 GMT -5
As for the Palin, she broke ethics laws period. She could have stopped this, but let a personal agenda get in the way of performing her job per her position. Mmmmmmmm no, you once again are skating on thin legal ice. Governor Palin has not been found guilty by a competent court with authority of violation of ethics, nor has she been impeached and convicted by the legislature of her state. She merely has been accused in a non-binding "finding" by an investigation that has been directed by her political opponents. In so far as her performing her job, Alaskans seem to think she's been doing just fine and she is still very popular at home. They are looking at the totality of her record (which I would guess you wouldn't grasp the concept of because of the severe lack of record on the part of your presidential candidate) and what she has been doing as a whole. Let's put it this way... regardless of whether this jackass trooper was her ex-brother in law or not, his ass should have been fired right after the personnel investigation issued a finding sustaining the allegations against him. Speaking as a veteran law enforcement officer, a guy like that is an absolute embarrassment who has no place wearing the badge of office or holding the enormous public trust that goes with it. By abusing a child with a Taser he was committing what in most states is a felony. He needed to be fired and prosecuted criminally as there is no crime short of murder more despicable than physical or sexual abuse of a child. Yet, he was "reprimanded" and you're okay with that. Move it to California, and instead of Palin's brother in law, it's a peace officer who works for the town you live in. How would that make you feel ? Knowing that on some dark night you could be stopped by that officer, knowing what he did to a defenseless child, and knowing what he could do to you if he wanted to. Take my word for it, he needed to go. It didn't happen and the state of Alaska is more the worse for it. Walt Monegan, the superintendent, was insubordinate and divisive on other matters unrelated. That he was also a jackass, knuckled under to the union and refused to fire that moron is just that much more on the crap side of the ledger for him. He needed to get fired as well because the last thing a governor needs is the state police force to be a bunch of rogue idiots not doing what they are lawfully ordered to do, especially at the top. But I don't expect you to understand any of that. The investigation found, rightly, that his firing was within her rights and prerogatives as chief executive. Monegan, being a political animal, lashed back with BS. Democrats eager to smear her have latched on. And that brings us to this point. |
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Post by Mink on Oct 18, 2008 1:42:03 GMT -5
[ Did the Alaska Court system do the same as the Supreme Court did for Hillary? I'm not sure where you are going here bloverk.I'm not a hundred percent sure where he is going either, but you are off the track yet again. If the United States Supreme Court decides something, then what the Alaska Court system thinks on the same point is not germane, cogent or legally applicable. The courts of the states are inferior in authority to the Supreme Court. End of story. How can you not understand where bloverk is going with this, yet explain the court system? Palin was dealing with the inferior court system and I'm still not sure the correlation with Hillary. |
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