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Post by subdjoe on Nov 2, 2008 9:00:36 GMT -5
The Ant Works Hard
Classic Version: The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. The shivering grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.
The Modern Politically Correct Version: The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. The shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others less fortunate like him are cold and starving. ABC and Channel 9 show up to provide live coverage of the shivering grasshopper, with cuts to a video of the ant in his comfortable warm home with a table filled with food. Americans are stunned that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so while others have plenty. The Democrats, the Greens and the Coalition Against Poverty demonstrate in front of the ant's house. ABC News, interrupting a cultural festival special from the South with breaking news, broadcasts them singing "We Shall Overcome." Jessie Jackson rants in an interview with Dan Rather that the ant has gotten rich off the backs of grasshoppers, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his "fair share." In response to polls, Democratic Party leaders draft the Economic Equity and Grasshopper Anti-Discrimination Act, retroactive to the beginning of the summer. And the Party quickly passes it through the Congress with many in opposition afraid not to vote for it. The ant's taxes are reassessed and he is also fined for failing to hire grasshoppers as helpers. Without enough money to pay both the fine and his newly imposed retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government. The ant moves to Asia, and starts a successful agribiz company. The TV stations later show the now fat grasshopper finishing up the last of the ant's food though Spring is still months away. While the government owned house he is in, which just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around him because he hadn't maintained it. Inadequate government funding is blamed. Former Presidents Clinton and Carter now are appointed to head a commission of enquiry that will cost $10,000,000. The grasshopper is soon dead of a drug overdose, the New York Times blames it on obvious failure of government to address the root causes of despair arising from social inequity.
ANONYMOUS (one of various versions)
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Post by surefire on Nov 2, 2008 11:39:47 GMT -5
LOL!
I love it.
Great post, Subdjoe!
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Post by Mink on Nov 2, 2008 14:49:15 GMT -5
I take it neither of you have ever donated to food drives during the holiday season.......sigh
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Post by surefire on Nov 2, 2008 15:25:09 GMT -5
^I have.
I'm happy to donate. It's called free will.
I simply don't want the Government forcing me to redistribute.
I'm not even in Obama's range (if he stays true to $250k), but as I said earlier, I think he is full of fecal matter. Once he gets keys to the white house, they will raise taxes at MUCH LOWER levels.
I don't want to hear people that vote for this regime whining about high taxes after the Obama gets keys to the white house. Lots of folks have been forewarned. If one is affected by the taxes and dumb enough to vote for him, deal with it.
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Post by subdjoe on Nov 2, 2008 15:57:26 GMT -5
I take it neither of you have ever donated to food drives during the holiday season.......sigh And you are very wrong. Typical liberal thinking - if someone is against the government taking by force what people have worked for and giving it to those who don't work, we must be against all charity. Bullshit, Mink. I've dontated money, I've donated food. I have made special shopping trips to put together really useful bags to donate (flour, sugar, shortening, baking powder and soda, cocoa powder, beans, rice, vanilla, pasta, sauce, salt, pepper, some herbs and spices. Even threw in a small cookbook. Helped out in holiday kitchens doing food prep - peeling onions, chopping veg. etc. I've taken people into stores to buy food. A few times when the young couple ahead of me in line was literally having to count pennies and ask the clerk what specific items cost (this on a total of maybe 50 bucks worth of food) and trying to come up with a balance of what they need and what they could afford, I have either slipped them some cash or just slid my card in and paid for it myself. Told them to just pass it on when they had the chance. So climb down off your effing high horse, Mink. Just because some of us don't believe that the State should take all we have and redistribute it evenly does not mean we don't think there is a duty to help others. So, what have YOU done?
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Post by Mink on Nov 2, 2008 17:32:34 GMT -5
No need to get defensive. I just asked a simple question. It seemed to me that your cute little story, supports not helping anyone, period. Good for you and your volunteerism.
The "free will" choice surefire mentions has been much harder for folks in the last few holiday years...thank you bush
Obama will not be taxing any of us. It will be the top 2-3 % that will not receive the tax cuts Bush allowed them (while forgetting us). It's a tough job to fix the high deficit....thank you bush.
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Post by surefire on Nov 2, 2008 17:45:42 GMT -5
Obama will not be taxing any of us. It will be the top 2-3 % that will not receive the tax cuts Bush allowed them (while forgetting us). I have a bridge to sell anyone that believes this. I'll give a great deal on the bridge too. ;D
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Post by subdjoe on Nov 2, 2008 18:12:59 GMT -5
"No need to get defensive. I just asked a simple question."
No, you made an accusation and assumption not based on facts presented and you didn't phrase it as a question.
"It seemed to me that your cute little story, supports not helping anyone"
The first might be interpreted that way, if you believe that everything produced should be distributed equally no matter how hard or how little people have worked for it. The usual (classical) interpretation of this Aesops Fable is that industry will see you through, but sloth or frivolous activity will not.
The second is a bit is sarcasm directed at the left that preaches equality of results, everyone is entilted to an equal share in everything whether or not they have worked to produce it. And those who produce and save should be stripped of what they have, and that the results of their labor and husbandry be distributed to others who have neither toiled nor produced.
As for the myth that NO tax cuts came to the middle class, again I call bullshit (sorry, I have been watching Penn and Teller vids on youtube). Yeah, a 10% tax cut will result in more money in absolute terms in the pockets of the wealthy than in the pockets of the middle class and poor. Makes sense. If someone pays $10k in taxes their 10% will be more than the 10% of someone who pays $1k in taxes, simple arithmatic. And if someone pays NO taxes, they don't get any tax cut. 10% of zero is zero. What is so unfair or evil about that? The top 5% pays the lions share of the taxes, why shouldn't they get the lions share of a break? Fair is fair. Unless you believe that everything must be shared out equally.
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Post by Mink on Nov 2, 2008 19:30:38 GMT -5
Obama will not be taxing any of us. It will be the top 2-3 % that will not receive the tax cuts Bush allowed them (while forgetting us). I have a bridge to sell anyone that believes this. I'll give a great deal on the bridge too. ;D So you think the bridge already currently used by the top 2-3 % should be maintained? Think about it.
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Post by Mink on Nov 2, 2008 19:35:36 GMT -5
"No need to get defensive. I just asked a simple question." No, you made an accusation and assumption not based on facts presented and you didn't phrase it as a question. "It seemed to me that your cute little story, supports not helping anyone" The first might be interpreted that way, if you believe that everything produced should be distributed equally no matter how hard or how little people have worked for it. The usual (classical) interpretation of this Aesops Fable is that industry will see you through, but sloth or frivolous activity will not. The second is a bit is sarcasm directed at the left that preaches equality of results, everyone is entilted to an equal share in everything whether or not they have worked to produce it. And those who produce and save should be stripped of what they have, and that the results of their labor and husbandry be distributed to others who have neither toiled nor produced. As for the myth that NO tax cuts came to the middle class, again I call bullshit (sorry, I have been watching Penn and Teller vids on youtube). Yeah, a 10% tax cut will result in more money in absolute terms in the pockets of the wealthy than in the pockets of the middle class and poor. Makes sense. If someone pays $10k in taxes their 10% will be more than the 10% of someone who pays $1k in taxes, simple arithmatic. And if someone pays NO taxes, they don't get any tax cut. 10% of zero is zero. What is so unfair or evil about that? The top 5% pays the lions share of the taxes, why shouldn't they get the lions share of a break? Fair is fair. Unless you believe that everything must be shared out equally. People who don't pay taxes won't see any change. People making less than $250,000. will see a change and the top 2-3% who flourished under Bush, will just revert back to Clinton times. In the meantime, all the people who have planned and put their money away (401K.....etc) , have seen some or all of it disappear in hours, while the Wall Street Elite get a pass.
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Post by surefire on Nov 2, 2008 19:39:05 GMT -5
I have a bridge to sell anyone that believes this. I'll give a great deal on the bridge too. ;D So you think the bridge already currently used by the top 2-3 % should be maintained? Think about it. Most are going to pay more taxes. Obama is so full of excrement that people are actually buying his 95% bullsquat. Cheetahs don't change their spots. Obama is a tax and spend liberal, he will have no incentive to change once he has the keys. But hey, it's all for a good cause, right? Making the Government more powerful is worth higher taxes.
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Post by surefire on Nov 2, 2008 19:40:09 GMT -5
"No need to get defensive. I just asked a simple question." No, you made an accusation and assumption not based on facts presented and you didn't phrase it as a question. "It seemed to me that your cute little story, supports not helping anyone" The first might be interpreted that way, if you believe that everything produced should be distributed equally no matter how hard or how little people have worked for it. The usual (classical) interpretation of this Aesops Fable is that industry will see you through, but sloth or frivolous activity will not. The second is a bit is sarcasm directed at the left that preaches equality of results, everyone is entilted to an equal share in everything whether or not they have worked to produce it. And those who produce and save should be stripped of what they have, and that the results of their labor and husbandry be distributed to others who have neither toiled nor produced. As for the myth that NO tax cuts came to the middle class, again I call bullshit (sorry, I have been watching Penn and Teller vids on youtube). Yeah, a 10% tax cut will result in more money in absolute terms in the pockets of the wealthy than in the pockets of the middle class and poor. Makes sense. If someone pays $10k in taxes their 10% will be more than the 10% of someone who pays $1k in taxes, simple arithmatic. And if someone pays NO taxes, they don't get any tax cut. 10% of zero is zero. What is so unfair or evil about that? The top 5% pays the lions share of the taxes, why shouldn't they get the lions share of a break? Fair is fair. Unless you believe that everything must be shared out equally. People who don't pay taxes won't see any change. People making less than $250,000. will see a change and the top 2-3% who flourished under Bush, will just revert back to Clinton times. In the meantime, all the people who have planned and put their money away (401K.....etc) , have seen some or all of it disappear in hours, while the Wall Street Elite get a pass. Right... let's see if people still sing this tune when Obama jacks the taxes up on those making as little as 50k.
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