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Post by moondog on Dec 21, 2008 0:24:00 GMT -5
Thank you Linda Lovelace.
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Post by Mink on Dec 21, 2008 20:53:17 GMT -5
If you think Felt was a traitor or didn't like him sneaking around I would think you would feel the same if not more disdain for Nixon, as the President. See how Nixon violated the Constitution: classes.lls.edu/archive/manheimk/371d1/nixonarticles.html Nixon's concerns had little to do with serving the U.S. Constitution or the people and in the end his only concerns were protecting himself and his power by any means necessary. Mark Felt not only protected the FBI, the Constitution, but also the country. |
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Post by The New Guy on Dec 21, 2008 22:38:23 GMT -5
If you think Felt was a traitor or didn't like him sneaking around I would think you would feel the same if not more disdain for Nixon, as the President. you never heard me say i didn't have disdain for nixon. i merely pointed out that felt was not a big time hero in my book and i didn't approve of his methods. yeah, i could be missing something since obviously, i wasn't there at the time but still on the surface i don't approve. i viewed the information you provided (articles of impeachment) and i couldn't help but mentally substitute clinton's name. maybe we should make some bumper stickers that say: " Nixon lied -no one died." quite a stretch here. sorry, but i can't see where felt was protecting the constitution in any way, shape, or form. |
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Post by moondog on Dec 22, 2008 12:05:58 GMT -5
The damage done to this country by Nixon was small and insignificant in comparison to the damage done in a previous administration. In fact, Nixon was on his way out of office in short order and was not trying to build a dynasty as was attempted by one individual who broke with tradition and used government money, offices and people in order to extend his reign as the supreme ruler of this nation.
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Post by subdjoe on Dec 22, 2008 19:09:00 GMT -5
I can't quite agree with you on this Moondog. Nixons shenannigans changed the feeling that the electorate has for the government. He did use the FBI and IRS to carry out personal attacks on opponents. Now, I will grant that he did not do the damage to the Constitution or the relationship between the federal government and the several states that Lincoln and FDR did, but he was trying to accrue Imperial-like powers to the Executive branch.
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Post by The New Guy on Dec 22, 2008 21:57:23 GMT -5
now, here's a real american patriot: www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/douglasmacarthurfarewelladdress.htmgeneral macarthur's farewell speech to congress. pay particular attention to his words regarding red china. though, almost 60 years ago, his speech remains relevant. it is also interesting to note his mention of the phillipines and what a model christian democracy it had become. yet, today it is falling victim to the growing tide of islamic extremism. this is the fault of the "holier-than-thou" appeasers on the left. the do-gooders will be to blame when that nation turns into another iranian satellite. imagine if old Mac were alive today......  |
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Post by Mink on Dec 23, 2008 1:03:17 GMT -5
Ahem.....thread drift
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Post by subdjoe on Dec 23, 2008 10:33:00 GMT -5
How so? Nixon is on topic, ditto for what he did compared to other presidents. Or are you talking about Dugout Dougs little talk? That I am surprised you don't find fitting for Deep Throat. |
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Post by moondog on Dec 23, 2008 15:19:44 GMT -5
Thread drift? If I recall, it was Nixon who normalized trade relations with China first. Any discussion of that must include warnings by Douglas C. MacArthur, who my best friends Grandfather met twice, by the way.
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Post by Mink on Dec 23, 2008 17:53:05 GMT -5
Was MacArthur involved in Watergate?
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Post by moondog on Dec 23, 2008 18:52:17 GMT -5
Was Mink elected dictator? Is Mink capable of carrying on a normal conversation? What do you do when your friends conversation drifts through related topics to a specific presidency? Do you jump in and say, "Ahem... conversation drift."
You want to talk about Deep Throat? I think he was not a patriot and was nothing more then a chicken, otherwise he would not have hidden himself. Far, far worse things have happened in the history of this government, at the hands of Democrats, which have gone covered up for decades.
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Post by Mink on Dec 23, 2008 19:01:41 GMT -5
you're showing bloverk!
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