Good poem

[subdjoe]

I found this on another forum, thought I would pass it on.


A VISITOR FROM THE PAST
by Thelen Paulk

I had a dream the other night, I didn't understand.
A figure walking through the mist, with flintlock in his hand,
His clothes were torn and dirty, as he stood there by the bed,
He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low, he said:

"We fought a revolution, to secure our liberty.
We wrote the Constitution, as a shield from tyranny,
For future generations, this legacy we gave,
In this, the land of the free and the home of the brave."

"The freedom we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep.
But tyrants labored endlessly, while your parents were asleep.
Your freedom gone, your courage lost, you're no more
than a slave,
In this, the land of the free and the home of the brave."

"You buy permits to travel, and permits to own a gun,
Permits to start a business, or to build a place for one.
On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent,
Although you have no voice in choosing how the money's spent."

"Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate.
Your Christian values can't be taught, according to the state.
You read about the current news, in a regulated press.
You pay a tax you do not owe, to please the I.R.S."

"Your money is no longer made of silver or of gold.
You trade your wealth for paper, so your life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God in shame,
You've taken Satan's number, as you've traded in your name."

"You've given government control to those who do you harm,
So they can padlock churches, and steal the family farm,
And keep the country deep in debt, put men of God in jail,
Harass your fellow countrymen, while corrupted courts prevail."

"Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oath they've sworn.
Your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born.
Your leaders ship artillery and guns to foreign shores,
And send your sons to slaughter, fighting other people's wars."

"Can you regain freedom for which we fought and died?
Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride?
Are there no more values for which you'll fight to save?
Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave?"

"Sons of the Republic arise and take a stand!
Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land!
Preserve our great republic and each God-given right,
And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright!"

As I awoke he vanished, in the mist from which he came.
His words were true, we are not free. We have ourselves to blame.
For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right,
We only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight.

If he stood by your bedside, in a dream while you're asleep,
And wondered what remains of our rights he fought to keep,
What would be your answer, if he called out from the grave?
Is this still the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave?

[moondog]

I am moved by that. And saddened by the path Obama has embarked upon.

[The Avenger]

With the mess that this new "appointed one" is bringing to our country that poem couldn't be more poignant.

Good posting!

[saunterelle]

Jan 28, 2009 13:00:54 GMT -5 The Avenger said:

With the mess that this new "appointed one" is bringing to our country that poem couldn't be more poignant.

Good posting!

Lol. You mean the mess that was left (by Republicans) for him to clean up. That was the whole reason he was elected.

[subdjoe]

Yeah , Pres. Bush was unable to finish the job of fixing the stuff Clinton broke, so there is still some stuff left to do..

[moondog]

On the last day of President Bush's term in office, the national debt was $34,773.68 per person. At the end of one week in office, it appears our national debt per person will be $37,452.93 per person. Now, how is that for change?

The stimulus bill that the Democrats are touting, the one that would increase our debt, is very, very expensive. Most of us understand house payments. In the same terms as a 30 year fixed loan, without interest mind you, it would cost us $27,300,000,000 a year or, $2,275,000,000 per month or, $74,794,520.55 per day, or $3,116,438.36 per hour or, $51,940.64 per minute or, ultimately $865.68 per second to pay off just the stimulus package.

And, lest we forget, we also have over $10 trillion in debt as well. This is going to be increased to over $11 trillion with the stimulus package. I wonder:

Payments to pay off in 30 years:
Per Year: $381,622,994,268
Per Month: $31,801,916,189
Per Week: $7,318,797,150
Per Day: $1,045,542,450
Per Hour: $43,564,269
Per Minute: $726,071
Per Second: $12,101

Yeah, there is nothing to worry about saunterelle, nothing at all. Just let the Democrats keep spending and spending. If we paid a dollar a second on this it would take 363,036 years to pay off the debt. A dollar a second is equal to $86,400 a day or $31,536,000 per year. Do you still have confidence in the stimulus package?

[saunterelle]

As a matter of fact, I don't think the stimulus package is a good idea. I also don't think more corporate tax cuts are a good idea. The Republicans are a one trick pony. "Tax cuts" are their only idea. They have proven (over the past 8 yrs.) that their idea doesn't work. The Democrat's plan is the lesser of two evils in this case. At least it gets money to people who need it right now.

[saunterelle]

Jan 29, 2009 8:29:18 GMT -5 subdjoe said:

Yeah , Pres. Bush was unable to finish the job of fixing the stuff Clinton broke, so there is still some stuff left to do..

Give me a break! The guy had 8 years (6 with a Republican controlled House and Congress) and you're saying he "just needed more time"? What a crock. Quite honestly, it's sad to see you blaming Clinton for the mess we're in. How long will it be before you wake up to the reality of the situation?

The poem was good by the way, even if I don't agree with it. Sorry to hijack the thread.

[moondog]

Jan 29, 2009 14:11:12 GMT -5 saunterelle said:

As a matter of fact, I don't think the stimulus package is a good idea. I also don't think more corporate tax cuts are a good idea. The Republicans are a one trick pony. "Tax cuts" are their only idea. They have proven (over the past 8 yrs.) that their idea doesn't work. The Democrat's plan is the lesser of two evils in this case. At least it gets money to people who need it right now.

Just because you have no understanding of history or economics does not mean you are right. Tax cuts and cuts in federal expenditures have historically ended unemployment and recessions and near depressions. The one primary example that proves your way will not work was the Depression.

Now, many Democrats like to point out that at the beginning of FDR's administration unemployment was high. And, that by 1940, unemployment was low. But they never point out that in 1939 the unemployment was higher then when he took office, and that was in his second term. His policies failed.

And using forced induction as a means to offset the unemployment figures is disingenuous. The only reason the economy did not flounder after the war was because FDR died. Harry S Truman cut taxes and expenditures and was far more friendly to business, so our economy moved forward.

[moondog]

And, by the way, Harry S Truman did not care to much for FDR, his methods or his policies.

[saunterelle]

You're so far off it's not even funny. FDR was elected to four terms in office, he served from 1933 to 1945 and is the only U.S. president to have served more than two terms. Anyone with half a brain credits his New Deal with lifting us out of the Great Depression. Your attempts to say it hurt our country are pathetic. He also brought rise to Social Security. Do you think Social Security was a bad idea?? How many more old folks would freeze to death if we didn't have Social Security??

[moondog]

Are you legs tired? You seem to jump to a lot of conclusions. That is a problem with your ideology, you don't trust people.

I have seen various articles from the left trying to lift the fable of FDR's greatness in the face of recent reviews of his policies. However, they never include interim data, they show employment levels from when he took office to 1940, excluding all the years between. He had unemployment levels higher in 1939 then when he came in office. Even his best friend and Secretary of Treasury, Henry Morgenthau, Jr. in 1939 in front of the Democratically controlled House Ways and Means Committee said, "We have tried spending money. We are spending more money then we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong... somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises... I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!"

Even the people you admire, the very person who worked directly for FDR and was his best friend in the entire world, Henry Morgenthau, Jr., who was both FDR's neighbor, close confidant and loyal member of cabinet acknowledges what you refuse to, and he lived it. He was so close to FDR that FDR's wife, Eleanor, said the two were so close that he was the only man alive that could tell her husband "categorically" that he was wrong and get away with it.

Now, how do you refute that when it comes right from the horses mouth? Please, please try oh genuflecting lemming of the left.