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Post by subdjoe on Jun 21, 2008 13:53:24 GMT -5
I picked this up from a different forum:
Where are all of the Hollywood celebrities holding telethons asking for help in restoring Iowa and Missouri and helping the folks affected by the floods?
Where is all the media asking the tough questions about why the federal government hasn't solved the problem? Asking where the FEMA trucks (and trailers) are?
Why isn't the Federal Government relocating Iowa and Missouri people to free hotels in Chicago?
When will Spike Lee say that the Federal Government blew up the levees that failed in Des Moines?
Where are Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks?
Where are all the looters stealing high-end tennis shoes and big screen television sets?
When will we hear Governors Chet Culver and Matt Blunt say that he wants to rebuild a "vanilla" Iowa, because that's the way God wants it?
Where is the hysterical 24/7 media coverage complete with reports of cannibalism?
Where are the people declaring that George Bush hates white, rural people?
Where are the Chinese repaying us for the help for the earthquake victims?
Where are the Burma folks repaying our help after the typhoon?
Where is anyone for any African or Middle Eastern Country that we have tried to help over the past decade or two.
You may argue that the Burmese and Africans are to poor so how about Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the United Arab Emirates?
How come in 2 weeks, you will never hear about the flooding ever again?
A few good questions there.
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Post by The New Guy on Jun 21, 2008 15:58:08 GMT -5
damn good questions. perhaps you missed my post in this thread: norcaldebateclub.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=currentissues&action=display&thread=75here is a copy of it: over the past several days of continuous news reporting about the devastating floods in iowa, illinois, missouri, etc. i have noticed a few differences: 1. no one is blaming bush 2. no one is blaming FEMA 3. no one is whining about how the gov't needs to "get up off their asses and get down here" 4. no claims of racism are being issued 5. no one is looting or killing each other 6. there are no mayors like ray nagin sitting on their asses blaming everyone else for their ineptitude 7. no one is feeling "entitled" to or totally dependent upon gov't aid are these just coincidental differences or is new orleans really a horse of a different color? (no pun intended) |
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Post by subdjoe on Jun 21, 2008 17:58:19 GMT -5
<smacks himself in forehead> DUH! I had forgotten about it. Sorry
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Post by Mink on Jun 22, 2008 2:01:31 GMT -5
Please tell me you aren't insinuating anything about New Orleans or Mississippi? Afterall, all of these states are in the US and they are all Americans.
I hope to see fundraisers by Hollywood stars, rock stars and everyone. The latest victims of natures' fury will need just as much help!!
quote: You may argue that the Burmese and Africans are to poor so how about Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the United Arab Emirates?
Now that is a good question!!
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Post by subdjoe on Jun 22, 2008 7:47:11 GMT -5
Mink, no one is trying to say that MS or LA are not part of the US or didn't need help. This is an attempt to point out the hypocracy of the media, the professional Bush haters, the professional protestors, and the oh so tolerant, inclusive, and diverse progressives in general, all of whom were up in arms (there is an ironic turn of phrase) at the Bush administration - mostly for failings of the local and state governments of those states. Seems that no one in those groups who made such a fuss about NOLA and wanted to lynch the current adminstration give a damn about the hard woking white folk whose houses are underwater, as well as their means of livelyhood in many cases.
Yes, it would be nice to see fundraisers by the hollywood and rock stars, but l won't hold my breath waiting to see it.
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Post by The New Guy on Jun 22, 2008 11:25:50 GMT -5
Please tell me you aren't insinuating anything about New Orleans or Mississippi? Afterall, all of these states are in the US and they are all Americans. i am absolutely insinuating something. what are the main differences between the two flood situations? one group was more prepared, less dependent upon gov't while the other was totally unprepared and completely dependent upon gov't. skin color is only coincidental. NOLA victims were professional victims reliant upon gov't for everything else in their lives so they naturally assumed that gov't would be right there for them in the flood too. this is thanks to professional victims "leaders" such as mayor nagin, jesse jackson, al sharpton, etc. for decades the mantra has been "the white man is keeping the black man down." when in reality, it is the black man (the so called black leaders) that is keeping the black man down. you can avoid the issue in the name of political correctness if you want but you know deep down inside your soul that it is true. other victims (alabama during katrina and current mid-west flood victims) were raised to understand that YOU are your first source of recovery. they were taught to rely on themselves, their own skills and willpower to pull them through hard times. they were taught not to sit on their hands a bitch and moan while waiting for the gubment to come to their aid. hollywood sees this and recognizes that these people will pull through with or without gov't help. these people are resilient, not professional victims. you won't see any sean penn's trolling around in row boats bad-mouthing bush. you won't see any spike lees making movies. you won't see any mid-west mayors passing the buck to the FEMA. you will only see determined americans doing what needs to be done to piece their lives back together. once again, yes i am insinuating something. |
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Post by Mink on Jun 22, 2008 16:57:43 GMT -5
Whether one group was more prepared than the other is no reason to compare. Your stance on these disasters are "ditto" what Rush said recently and that was uncalled for.
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Post by subdjoe on Jun 22, 2008 18:09:14 GMT -5
Mink, New Guy was spot on. Care to point out anything that he posted that isn't true?
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Post by Mink on Jun 22, 2008 19:03:02 GMT -5
Brown isn't the head of FEMA anymore.
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Post by The New Guy on Jun 22, 2008 21:29:22 GMT -5
who is the head of FEMA? do you know, mink? do you really care? what difference does it make?
the people wading through what's left of their belongings don't care because they are not waiting for FEMA to bail them out (pardon the pun)!
you just don't understand that that john edwards was right. there really are TWO americas. one who are true americans - participating in this great experiment, working hard to earn what they get. then there is the other america - sucking at the gov't teat at every opportunity then sitting on their asses waiting for the gov't to come to their rescue. this is the america that feels "entitled" just because they live and breathe. they are taught that "the man" owes them something and will always be beholden to their needs; that because of some wrong that your great, great, great, great grandpappy brought upon them. they are taught to wait on what they believe shoudl be given to them rather than go out and earn what they need/want.
no, i certainly am not going to lump ALL people into one category or the other based on race, ethnicity, etc. because i know there are exceptions in both cases. but you cannot ignore reality. yes, john edwards, there ARE two americas!
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Post by subdjoe on Jun 22, 2008 22:52:43 GMT -5
You forgot to mention that part of the problem is that since the early 60s people have been taught that somehow the government is supposed to take care of all our needs. And that somehow the government 'empowers' the People. And how that can work I have no idea, since We the People empower the government. So it can't empower us.
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Post by Mink on Jun 25, 2008 22:47:10 GMT -5
Time would only tell how folks in flooded areas would manage. The people in Iowa felt safe and secure with the levees and now without flood insurance, many have to do what is necessary. www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080625/BUSINESS/806250358I hope no one finds them guilty of feeling "entitled" for needing govt. help as did Hurricane Katrina victims. added: Let's just hope the govt. doesn't try to pass the same unhealthy mobile homes that are still sitting unused to the recent flood victims  |
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