mrbose
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Post by mrbose on Feb 24, 2009 3:39:05 GMT -5
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Post by moondog on Feb 24, 2009 11:48:58 GMT -5
Actually I support the idea. I do not believe in prohibition for such a substance.
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Post by saunterelle on Feb 24, 2009 20:16:47 GMT -5
Unbelievable. Moondog and I agree on something. Tax it like alcohol and it solves our state's financial crisis while clearing much needed room in our jails.
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Post by Mink on Feb 24, 2009 20:33:55 GMT -5
ditto...
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Post by The Big Dog on Feb 24, 2009 21:05:46 GMT -5
Yes.. tax it like alcohol and tobacco.
And do any of you get just how far people are going to dodge those taxes that already exist? And if you legalize it, I guess you should make being under the influence legal as well? While it makes sense at one level, the position of legalization / taxation completely disregards human nature and the realities of the situation.
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mrbose
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Post by mrbose on Feb 24, 2009 22:11:37 GMT -5
I was a "Drug and Alcohol Control Officer" in the Navy as one of my additional duties. It was very eye opening the facts the government provided me. For one, 95% of all alcoholics only drink beer. Another thing they taught me (in that year) is about 4,000 Americans die each year due to ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS COMBINED. However, 400,000 Americans die each year due to legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco.Infact nicotine is the most addictive substances in the world, as addictive as cocaine.Did you know the amount of money we spend due to losses on crime (nobody breaks into your house to support their Marlborough habit), loss of taxes it is about time we review some of these out of date laws,In fact most drug laws were only passed in the last 70 years. Virtually all of this stuff was legal up until then.
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Feb 24, 2009 22:12:06 GMT -5
I agree...to a point. Isn't Amersterdam back-pedaling on this issue?
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Post by moondog on Feb 25, 2009 17:06:26 GMT -5
The true reality of the situation TBD is this, marijuana is used by law enforcement officers in some states to pad drug arrest statistics while the use of hard drugs continues to increase. More marijuana cases are thrown out every year then any other type, leading to a very high expense to conviction ratio. Perhaps it is time to find a middle road that focuses more on things like cocaine, heroine, methamphetamine and other such drugs.
Plus, legalization will tend to impede the criminal aspect of marijuana as well. You will see a decline in growing operations on public land. Murders associated with hidden gardens, though low, will become non-existent.
There are trade offs on both sides of the issue.
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Feb 25, 2009 19:06:58 GMT -5
The true reality of the situation TBD is this, marijuana is used by law enforcement officers in some states to pad drug arrest statistics while the use of hard drugs continues to increase. More marijuana cases are thrown out every year then any other type, leading to a very high expense to conviction ratio. Perhaps it is time to find a middle road that focuses more on things like cocaine, heroine, methamphetamine and other such drugs.
Plus, legalization will tend to impede the criminal aspect of marijuana as well. You will see a decline in growing operations on public land. Murders associated with hidden gardens, though low, will become non-existent.
There are trade offs on both sides of the issue. The focus on marijuana does seem so insignificant compared to the absolute devastation of meth addicts and their families, not to mention crimes etc. In my opinion cocaine and heroin are secondary to meth in all respects, and in regard to the social, physical, and emotional damage I equate marijuana to alcohol. |
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Post by moondog on Feb 27, 2009 19:26:18 GMT -5
I agree...to a point. Isn't Amersterdam back-pedaling on this issue? The backpedaling in Amsterdam seems to center around heroine. They still have all the hash clubs, marijuana conventions, etc. But, the use of heroine has climbed in certain areas the last I heard, and it has spilled over into public areas. |
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Post by harpman1 on Feb 27, 2009 20:31:52 GMT -5
Despite the fact that those CAMP raids were fun, I do support legalizing weed, as long as it is taxed to the hilt(like tobacco & alcohol)and sold only to adults.
The citizen in me opposes a population that is hammered, but the realist sees the carnage of the crime associated with prohibition.
I have serious doubts as to whether drug use will drop, but to quote Sen, Harry Reid, "This war is lost."
He was wrong about that war(big surprise), but the concept applies in this case.
God help us, though. And forgive us.
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Post by Mink on Feb 27, 2009 20:56:10 GMT -5
God will forgive as he created the beautiful plant. It looks alot like the tomato plant and has medicinal values.
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