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Post by subdjoe on Aug 24, 2009 18:09:37 GMT -5
cbs5.com/local/hillsdale.high.school.2.1141852.html Police arrest a suspect in the bombing at Hillsdale High School in San Mateo Monday.
A 17-year-old former student was arrested Monday after police said he detonated two pipe bombs inside Hillsdale High School in San Mateo.
Police did not find a gun, but indicated that suspect was in possession of a chain saw in addition to the explosives.
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Post by Mink on Aug 24, 2009 23:44:37 GMT -5
your point?
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Post by subdjoe on Aug 25, 2009 0:03:36 GMT -5
Well, gee, Mink, it isn't all that hard to figure out. Any time someone is seen anywhere in the vicinity of a school with a firearm there are cries to ban guns. So it is only reasonable to call for a ban on pipe and chain saws when someone detonates two PIPE bombs on a campus, has 8 more PIPE bombs and a CHAINSAW with him, seemingly intent on doing harm. Right? After all, if he hadn't had easy access to PIPE, then he would not have been able to make the bombs, right? Shouldn't something be done to get PIPE off the streets and out of the hands of children? |
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Post by Mink on Aug 25, 2009 0:12:33 GMT -5
Are you upset because they arrested the kid for having set off pipe bombs and in possession of a chain saw? Or are you upset because a gun was one thing the article said they looked into?
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Post by subdjoe on Aug 25, 2009 0:19:06 GMT -5
Are you upset because they arrested the kid for having set off pipe bombs and in possession of a chain saw? Or are you upset because a gun was one thing the article said they looked into? No, I'm mocking the mindless leftist drones who call for bans on anything that is potentially harmful. But you knew that. Not upset about anything having to do with how it was handled. Just surprised that the usual suspects that always call for gun bans havn't yet called for bans on dangerous assault pipe and chainsaws. It doesn't fit their pattern. |
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Post by Mink on Aug 25, 2009 0:29:47 GMT -5
subdjoe, they arrested the kid for pipes and a chainsaw, at school! Don't you think if there was reason enough, authorities would do the same if they knew a kid was producing these things at home or elsewhere, let alone in possesion of a gun or guns?
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Post by subdjoe on Aug 25, 2009 0:48:40 GMT -5
subdjoe, they arrested the kid for pipes and a chainsaw, at school! Don't you think if there was reason enough, authorities would do the same if they knew a kid was producing these things at home or elsewhere, let alone in possesion of a gun or guns? Mink, if you bother to READ , yes READ, what I said you would find that I have NO PROBLEM WITH HOW IT WAS HANDLED. Do you under-stand? I'm glad the little thug was arrested. and I am MOCKING you, and Babs, and Lynn, and all the rest who usually get in a snit and call for gun bans whenever a gun is seen in the vicinity of a school. I will point out that when it was KO for kids to bring their guns to school to work on in shop, or just to go shooting or hunting after school, there were no bombings, and even fewer shootings than there are now (and they are a vanishingly small number, no mattter what your heros say). |
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Post by saunterelle on Aug 25, 2009 1:55:43 GMT -5
Guns kill 30,896 people a year in our country, far more than gun deaths in all other industrialized nations combined. Pipes and chainsaws kill very few relative to how many people own them. What reason is there to ban these items?
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Post by subdjoe on Aug 25, 2009 8:13:55 GMT -5
Guns kill 30,896 people a year in our country, far more than gun deaths in all other industrialized nations combined. Pipes and chainsaws kill very few relative to how many people own them. What reason is there to ban these items? It's for the children, Saunterelle. Would you sacrifice even one child for your convineince? Even without counting the deaths by means of firearm , the US has a higher NUMBER of homicides that other industrializes countries. The gun-free UK has a murder rate of about 4.5/100k (UK home office report, 2008) compared to our rate of about 5.5/100k(USDOJ). Not significantly different. Per USDOJ guns are used at least 600,000 times a year to prevent violent crime. There are about 1.25 million violent crimes per year in the US. If we back out the non-means dependent suicides (CDC studies show that firearms bans are ineffective in reducing the rate of suicide, when firearms are removed, other means are found) from your roughly 31k deaths, we have about 15.5k firearms related homicides, so we see that about 72k lives are SAVED (do a little math on your own, all the numbers needed are there, the exercise is left to the student), that is MURDERS PREVENTED, by guns. So you would condemn close to 60,000 people to violent death at the hands of criminals, just becuse YOU don't feel that YOU can be trusted with a gun. |
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Post by crossride on Aug 25, 2009 11:10:00 GMT -5
Guns kill 30,896 people a year in our country, far more than gun deaths in all other industrialized nations combined. Pipes and chainsaws kill very few relative to how many people own them. What reason is there to ban these items? I own multiple guns and not one of them has ever committed an act of violence that I know of. In fact they are usually right where I left them when I get home if they are not out with me. |
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Post by subdjoe on Aug 25, 2009 12:24:09 GMT -5
[I own multiple guns and not one of them has ever committed an act of violence that I know of. In fact they are usually right where I left them when I get home if they are not out with me. They must be defective then, Crossride. Or very sneaky. We ALL know that firearms go off on killing sprees whenever our backs are turned. Yep, the spirits in them animate them and send them out. |
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Post by heckheckle on Oct 30, 2009 22:55:23 GMT -5
Mink.
You can't win with some people. You know, the ones who give you a mindless arguement, and they don't realize that most people with ordinary common sense know what you mean, and
don't pay much attention to those who would try to distract
people by a lot of useless words.
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