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Post by JustMyOpinion on Sept 11, 2008 8:33:26 GMT -5
Here's a challenge on this day 9/11: How about we pause for a moment today to remember that we are more then "progressives," or "neocons." We are all Americans, and we need to stand together as one despite our differences. I've been observing the forum over the last few days and am surprised at how fast we can turn on each other over differing opinions/views instead of learning from another's perspective, or at the minimum responding with some level of respect. We should instead remember how lucky we are to have the opportunity to post our opinions freely without dire consequences whether we agree or not. United We Stand...[/b]
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Post by subdjoe on Sept 11, 2008 10:56:38 GMT -5
Amen.
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Post by harpman1 on Sept 11, 2008 11:04:35 GMT -5
As usual, I'll be thanking the U.S. Military for all of my freedoms today.
Freedom: Citizens want it. Statesmen propose it. Legislatures approve it. Soldiers purchase it. Citizens enjoy it.
Never forget.
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Post by Mink on Sept 11, 2008 21:01:19 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this JMO and reminding us how we came together during that horrifying and helpless morning.
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Post by The Big Dog on Sept 12, 2008 2:17:35 GMT -5
In the days and weeks immediately following the 9/11 attacks, I became increasingly frustrated by the American news media and the manner in which they collectively covered the story. In many ways, the coverage was soft pedaled. We knew thousands had died, and we knew of some of the stories of heroism, such as of Todd Beamer and his fellow passengers aboard United 93. Today, as we mark the seventh anniversary of the attacks, I've watched sound bite coverage of somber ceremonies and talking heads pontificating about that horrible day. I sense grief and sorrow, but the anger and resolve that filled that day and the first few days and weeks that followed seems gone. The media is covering our outpourings of grief, but the anger is missing. Just four weeks after the attack, I wrote a piece called "Why We Fight", and it was posted at my personal web site until I changed ISPs and took it down. If you know how to use the Internet Way Back Machine, it can still be found cached out on the web. To help remember the events in their proper perspective, I am posting it again here today. Since I wrote that piece seven years ago a lot of water has gone under the bridge. Time marches on. We're still fighting the terrorists, even though a lot of folks might think otherwise. I've been to Ground Zero. It was perhaps the most sobering single moment of my life. Soon, we're going to elect a new president and the fight will go on. We've been lucky since then and have not had another attack on our soil. Yet, and perhaps because there has been no further attacks on our soil, today I feel that far too many have forgotten why it is that we must fight the terrorists, and fight them to the death if necessary. This is why we fight... And this is why we fight... And this is why we fight... And so no one ever has to go through this again... We must continue to fight. And as long as I draw breath I shall never forget what happened that day, nor will I ever let anyone who can hear my voice or read my words forget what happened that day.
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Post by Mink on Sept 12, 2008 23:35:18 GMT -5
Big Dog, that was touching. I, too will never forget the morning getting ready for work, then realizing our country was under attack. Waking the children, and how does one explain the predicament was beyond me. Do I go to work? Do I send the kids to school? It is still hard for me to imagine what all the families who lost loved ones that day, must have experienced.
The weeks afterwards the country saw unity, flags all around us, people cringing at any plane flying above and yet no one knew what we could expect. They said the economy would definitely feel the loss, but what was worse was the fear of another attack.
So much has happened since then and without taking away from the horrific memory of that horrendous morning, how can we find closure unless we hold those accountable?
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Post by subdjoe on Sept 12, 2008 23:52:00 GMT -5
Also, keep in mind that the FIRST attack had come 8 years earlier, on 2/26/93.
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Post by Mink on Sept 13, 2008 0:30:15 GMT -5
Yes, no one can forget the first attack either, which should have raised a bigger "redder" flag to the next president, given the prior intelligence walking into office.
Regardless, the memory of 9/11 should drive the US to hold the perpetrators accountable and that has not been achieved. We know who attacked us.
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Post by The New Guy on Sept 13, 2008 1:46:18 GMT -5
magnificent post, mr. dog. you get a well deserved exaltation. mink, pardon my forthcoming harshness but here goes..... mink said, how the hell can you use this thread of all threads to take a shot at president bush? are you out of your mind? that was so uncalled for , so wrong, and so inappropriate! you are damn right that the WTC attack of '93 should have raised a big red flag......with CLINTON. he ignored it and other attacks (embassy bombings in africa, khobar towers, USS Cole, etc.) the red flags were all around but your boy was too busy getting blown in the white house hallway to even notice or to even care enough to take action. for SEVEN years he witnessed attack after attack on his fellow citizens and he did NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING! the responsibility for 9/11 rests squarely upon his shoulders! i'm so pissed off right now and i can't believe that you would think to bring politics into this thread. my only regret is that i can only smite you once for this.
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Post by ferrous on Sept 13, 2008 8:48:02 GMT -5
And what of the next president?
Do we lower the "Red Flags" and once again are lulled into a sense of false security because of the president's following his third "Doctrine?"
BTW, Gibson got it wrong when he asked Sarah Palin about the Bush doctrine.
It has been, now seven years since the 911 attack by radical Islamic terrorists. It's quite right that the President has gotten it right.
The next president will also hae to get it right in order to prevent innocent American blood from being spilt at home.
Bravo, President Bush understanding this and for keeping us safe in our homes and places of work.
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Post by The Big Dog on Sept 13, 2008 12:08:54 GMT -5
magnificent post, mr. dog. you get a well deserved exaltation. Thanks! Sometimes I write..... well. Which is why I am not conversing with her........... I'm beyond tired of it.
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Post by Mink on Sept 13, 2008 14:57:32 GMT -5
magnificent post, mr. dog. you get a well deserved exaltation. mink, pardon my forthcoming harshness but here goes..... mink said, how the hell can you use this thread of all threads to take a shot at president bush? are you out of your mind? that was so uncalled for , so wrong, and so inappropriate! you are damn right that the WTC attack of '93 should have raised a big red flag......with CLINTON. he ignored it and other attacks (embassy bombings in africa, khobar towers, USS Cole, etc.) the red flags were all around but your boy was too busy getting blown in the white house hallway to even notice or to even care enough to take action. for SEVEN years he witnessed attack after attack on his fellow citizens and he did NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING! the responsibility for 9/11 rests squarely upon his shoulders! i'm so pissed off right now and i can't believe that you would think to bring politics into this thread. my only regret is that i can only smite you once for this. TNG, of all things I didn't intend to do was to piss anyone off as we all share the same memory of 9/11. I agree, this wouldn't be the thread to attack each other. I responded to subdjoe's post: "Also, keep in mind that the FIRST attack had come 8 years earlier, on 2/26/93." The first attack was also shocking however the perpetrators of that job were caught and are now serving time in the pokey.
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