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Post by saunterelle on Jun 5, 2008 19:17:04 GMT -5
That's what I'm talking about. Of course he know how many states there are, he misspoke. McCain on the other hand chose his words carefully and believed they were correct. It took Lieberman to let him know he was wrong. Scary!
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Post by mrroqout on Jun 5, 2008 19:24:05 GMT -5
What about his grandfather "Liberating Auschwitz" mis-spoke or knowingly embellished?
Took some other cats to point out his "error" to him as well.
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Post by The New Guy on Jun 5, 2008 20:13:01 GMT -5
rev. wright, father pfleger, and louis farakhan are all elloquent speakers who know how to get a crowd worked up too.  |
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Post by crossride on Jun 5, 2008 22:20:59 GMT -5
The whole debate convinces me my point is valid. Stop touting a candidates speech making ability as evidence he should hold the highest office. Yes it would be nice if our president could sound a little brighter than W when its time to ad-lib, but that ability is so far down the list of qualities I'm looking for it is not really an issue to me. I'm just amazed that so many people who support Obama place his speech giving ability so high up (or as the only reason) on their list as a reason to vote for him.
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Post by subdjoe on Jun 5, 2008 22:44:43 GMT -5
Crossride wrote: " I'm just amazed that so many people who support Obama place his speech giving ability so high up (or as the only reason) on their list as a reason to vote for him."
I think they are 'accentuating the positive." And since that is really the only positive thing about him, they beat really hard on that one drum. Other than that, he shows a distain for American sovereignty, the Constitution, and the American people. But, since he gives a really good speech, I guess that is OK.
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Post by Mink on Jun 5, 2008 23:28:09 GMT -5
I thought this thread was about McCain's speech......my opinion is he will need to serve alot of coffee...yawn
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Post by subdjoe on Jun 5, 2008 23:44:31 GMT -5
I thought this thread was about McCain's speech......my opinion is he will need to serve alot of coffee...yawn It is. But it was brought up as a not so subtle slam at Panama John because he isn't a perky cheer leader type like Barry. Seems like the obamaheads want glitz and fluff over content. And feel good emotionalism over reason. |
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Post by bolverk on Jun 6, 2008 11:42:28 GMT -5
How can McCain back up his so called message of change? His policies are the same as Bush's that got us into the mess we're in now. I don't see America getting on board with John McCain unless he can convince us that he will be different. What he showed us in that speech was just more of the same. McCain policies are the same as Bush...  Where have you been living? That statement is so far off base, I begin to wonder if you are operating under diminished capacity. |
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Post by bolverk on Jun 6, 2008 11:46:39 GMT -5
Dead nuts off the cuff? Like when he was speaking to reporters in Jordan and showed his lack of knowledge by blurting out this misinformed statement? youtube.com/watch?v=v6GBdyws5YU Lieberman had to correct him. Lieberman! It isn't wise to attack Obama's speaking style. He is one of the most eloquent and intelligent speakers our country has ever seen. This is especially appealing after suffering through 8 years of Bush's linguistic deficiencies. I knew you were a bigot. Only a bigot would attack a person over their speaking abilities. Speaking abilities are not a measure of intelligence. Every hear of the Silver Tongued Devil? Well, you are backing one. A well known liar. |
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Post by bolverk on Jun 6, 2008 11:53:55 GMT -5
I thought this thread was about McCain's speech......my opinion is he will need to serve alot of coffee...yawn Yes, and it was juxtaposed with Obama's speech giving ability, which is quite valid and still on point. Besides, if I wanted a Cheerleader as President I would run my daughter for the office. She is a way better alternative then Obama, and she is a great cheerleader. And, even though she lacks experience just like Obama, I bet she would be far superior in intelligence and foreign policy. |
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Post by saunterelle on Jun 6, 2008 11:56:37 GMT -5
My comment doesn't have to do with his speaking ability, rather with the content of what he's saying. He demonstrates a clear misunderstanding of the situation in Iraq relative to the situation in Iran. That would be dangerous if we were to elect him President.
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Post by saunterelle on Jun 6, 2008 12:06:20 GMT -5
The original comment was only partially about McCain's tired delivery. It mainly had to do with the content of his speech. He is trying to latch on to Obama's message of change but offers no specifics on changes he will make that are different from Bush's policies. As the campaigning goes on, I am interested in how McCain will set himself apart from the disastrous policies of the Bush administration.
And as for speech delivery, it is actually very important. Imagine if Regan had lacked passion when he said "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" and then smiled awkwardly like McCain. Or if JFK fumbled his words when he said "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country." There's a reason why none of President Bush's speeches are memorable, he's one of the worst orators in Presidental history.
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