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Post by saunterelle on Oct 20, 2008 12:45:20 GMT -5
The McCain campaign has recently abandoned talking about the issues. A top McCain adviser recently stated: "If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we're going to lose." Thus, they have changed their focus and undertaken a new strategy of character assassination against Obama. Their campaign stops have brought out the lowest of America's low: Racists and ignorant bigots who have no interest in knowing the truth. McCain and Palin (especially) have been stoking the fire at their rallies and I am concerned for Obama's safety. Palin's statement that Obama is "palling around with terrorists" is not only ludicrous, it's dangerous. When people fear that their own safety is compromised by having Obama in the White House, they are more likely to do something drastic to keep it from happening. Combine that with the underlying racism in the American South and Obama campaigning in traditionally red states and you have a recipe for disaster. All we can do is hope that another young, potentially great American leader is not cut down in his prime.
Here are a few videos that drive my point home:
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Post by maxsawdust on Oct 20, 2008 13:01:24 GMT -5
And there is ABSOLUTETLY NO CHANCE, these videos were Uh...Edited to look this bad? How many thousands of people did he have to talk to..to get these reactions? What did HE ACTUALLY say to them OFF Camera. This you will NEVER know..so the videos while mildly alarming, are more amusing than anything.. Always consider the source. [youtube] www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv1EKBsPedo[/youtube]And as you can see from the above audio/video clips only the best and brightest will be voting Obama. |
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Post by saunterelle on Oct 20, 2008 13:08:05 GMT -5
Sure, I'm not claiming that all McCain/Palin supporters are like the ones in the videos. But there has been an increasing "fringe" element in recent weeks as we get closer to election day. The blatant fear mongering at the rallies fuels the fire and brings them out. Remember, it only takes one nut to ruin it for many.
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Post by maxsawdust on Oct 20, 2008 13:11:09 GMT -5
Again you COMPLETELY refuse to acknowledge the fact that this has OBVIOUSLY been edited. To purposely make it look like a buncha psychos about to lynch someone.
Yes a few fringe whack jobs.
Compare that to what I posted which is Obamas BASE!
Yeah no not scary.
And yes Obama in the White House finger on the button looking at Pakistan. All the while cutting our budget and stopping WEAPONS DEVELOPMENT..nope not scary..
LOL
And a great many of the people voting for B. Hussein are Bigots themselves who wouldn't know the truth if it hit them in the face...as can be CLEARLY evidenced in the first clip I offered. Voting B. Hussein merely because they are the same color...
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Post by saunterelle on Oct 20, 2008 13:52:27 GMT -5
Come on now. Blacks vote 98% Democrat in all elections, regardless if the candidate is black or white, so quit whining about the black vote.
The people in your videos aren't calling McCain a "terrorist" or saying "kill him" or claiming he's a "Muslim." They aren't even calling him a fascist. They simply don't agree with his policies so they are voting Obama. They are not threatening McCain's life in any way, shape, or form. So what's you're point exactly??
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Post by The Big Dog on Oct 20, 2008 14:03:16 GMT -5
First off the whole "kill him" brouhaha from last week was dismissed by no less an authority than the United States Secret Service as nothing but a hoax. Before you start spreading more of your manure it might benefit you to do some fact checking first.
You should also note the thread I posted over the weekend regarding the physical assault of a McCain supporter on the streets of New York by an Obama supporter. The "thugocracy" of the Democrats at work.
In short and in toto, you are spreading the propaganda and practicing identity politics... nothing more. You could spend your time far more fruitfully by getting after your man Barack to answer some serious questions about his background.
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Post by saunterelle on Oct 20, 2008 14:11:41 GMT -5
Are these "serious questions about his background" more important than the economic crisis, the two wars we're fighting, or education in America? You see, McCain has nothing left. He lost all 3 debates, is behind in the polls, and senses imminent defeat. However, instead of acting like a man and fighting fair he chooses to try and "swiftboat" Obama with ridiculous accusations. You follow his lead and spew crap on here that you know damn well has no baring on how Obama will lead our nation. It's downright pathetic.
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Post by The Big Dog on Oct 20, 2008 14:47:14 GMT -5
Yes, it's a fait accompli that Barack will be elected so we might as well all sit back and bask in his glow.
What is downright pathetic is the complete pass the "mainstream" media have given the vetting of Barack Obama. What is downright pathetic is your continued refusal to examine in any meaningful way the true background of the candidate. What is downright pathetic is Barack's continued refusal to answer hard questions about himself or his agenda.
What is downright pathetic is that it took a lowly plumbing contractor asking Barack an unscripted question for the media to finally notice what his "plans" really were. What is downright pathetic is the continued insistence by Barack, the media and propagandists like you to keep looking backwards instead of looking forward and actually examining just how a man with a one page resume, a history of non-committal (I vote "present") and no real executive experience is going to handle the duties and responsibilities of the free world.
What is downright pathetic is the complete reliance on style over substance, at all levels of the Democrat party.
You all are going to pay for your folly, just like I will. It is that measure of your coming pain that gives me small comfort in these troubling times, because I know I won't be in that boat alone. The only difference is that while I will be trying to get water out of the boat, you and all of Barack's friends will be busy trying to get more water in.
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Post by saunterelle on Oct 20, 2008 15:08:32 GMT -5
Obama has answered the questions. Did you not see the debates (including the ones with Clinton) where he answered these accusations directly? Did you not catch the piece CNN did examining Obama's relationship with Ayers?
"Joe (Samuel) the plumber" is a Republican who was trying to get Obama on a "gotcha" question. Instead of beating around the bush (or not answering) Obama gave Joe a complete answer. But, as it turns out, Joe will get a tax CUT under Obama's plan. So what is your point?
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Post by maxsawdust on Oct 20, 2008 15:16:41 GMT -5
Obama has answered the questions. Did you not see the debates (including the ones with Clinton) where he answered these accusations directly? Did you not catch the piece CNN did examining Obama's relationship with Ayers? "Joe (Samuel) the plumber" is a Republican who was trying to get Obama on a "gotcha" question. Instead of beating around the bush (or not answering) Obama gave Joe a complete answer. But, as it turns out, Joe will get a tax CUT under Obama's plan. So what is your point? Dear "Johnny SoundByte" NO the questions HAVE NOT been answered satisfactorily..or they WOULD NOT STILL BE BEING ASKED. As I showed you last week THE ARCHIVES ARE THERE. Obama has told SEVERAL LIES re: ties to Ayers / Rezko and MANY others. Nothing to hide? WHY LIE? And Joe the plumber was a "gotcha" according to you...but your videos are "legit". Please stop now before I ruin my monitor laughing at your hypocrisy. |
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Post by The Big Dog on Oct 20, 2008 15:45:54 GMT -5
Obama has answered the questions. Did you not see the debates (including the ones with Clinton) where he answered these accusations directly? Yes I did, and no he didn't. He never fully answered her charges. But then I don't expect you being a supporter of his to get that. You seem to be right and ready to supply edited video to support your assertions, so how about now? That is if you can find any. Yes, and it wasn't what I'd refer to as "hard hitting". Would it be beyond the pale for you have to watched reporting on the same issue from Fox? And there is a problem with asking a political candidate tough questions? If Joe the Plumber were a Democrat, would it make a difference? What you should be pissed about is the way that the media and the nutroots on the web have gone after and tried to destroy a common man who dared to ask a tough question of Obama, rather than to keep the focus where is belonged... on the candidate and his answers. The reaction of the media and the nutroots to destroy Joe is yet another example of the active stifling of dissent that socialists, progressives and the modern Democrat party are so good at doing. Kind of like you preaching above that the election is over so we should simply move on. And if Joe's business is successful and he hires another employee, he'd going to get hammered. What's your point? It's not that Obama gave, after no small amount of hemming and hawing, an answer. The answer that he gave is what is the point and what we are raising as an issue. It is 100% relevant to any discussion or debate concerning Barack's policies and intentions. If you can't handle the answers, perhaps you should not ask troubling questions seems to be what you keep telling us. Well sorry, that doesn't work. Not when the future of this nation is what is at stake. You may want to go quietly into that good socialist night, but I will not. |
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Post by saunterelle on Oct 20, 2008 16:12:17 GMT -5
Never fully answered? What is your fear regarding who he associated with in the past? Do you think he'll appoint them to his cabinet? I mean really, what is the concern here?
Actually, I watched part 2 of Sean Hannity's America last night. What I saw was laughable. It was what we've come to expect from Republicans. The focus was on Bill Ayres and his terrorist history complete with spooky music and then it would quickly cut to a shot of Obama and link the two together is some way like "did Obama launch his political career in Ayeres' living room?!" Give me a break. That's not unbiased investigative reporting!
Not at all, and it begs the question, why isn't Palin taking any tough questions?
If Joe were a Democrat it would make a difference because the focus would be on his current situation and the fact that he would get a tax cut NOW. Instead he asks hypothetically "What if I would be making over $250,000 down the road?" The answer is that he would pay 3 points more in taxes than under the current tax policy. It would be the same that he would pay if Bill Clinton were still President. Businesses didn't seem to suffer under Clinton did they? I rest my case.
How will he get "hammered?" The employee will pay less in taxes while Joe, making over $250,000 will be paying 3 points more than he would under the current tax policy.
I didn't see Joe getting attacked by the media. It's just interesting that he doesn't have a plumber's license, he is a registered Republican, and his name isn't Joe.
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