Post by The Big Dog on Oct 20, 2008 18:37:42 GMT -5
His name is Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher, and he goes by Joe. What's your problem with that? Lots of people go by a nickname or by their middle name. And if you haven't been seeing him getting attacked in the media and by the leftwing blogosphere then you either aren't looking or you are saying it to deliberately piss me off.
Ahhhh yes, let's trot out how well off everyone was under Bill Clinton as an argument. Sorry but that won't wash because Bill Clinton isn't standing for election and the economy overall is nowhere near as robust as it was when Bill Clinton took office, or when he left it for that matter. I've said it before that raising taxes of any kind in the current economic environment is tantamount to economic suicide, yet Barack is going to do it anyway.
I rest my case.
That's right, never fully answered. I don't fear that he'll appoint people like Bill Ayers or Reverend Wright to his cabinet. I am concerned that these people, and others, are who Barack himself admitted (long before he was running for president) as having shaped his political philosophies.
Bill Ayers, aside from being an unrepentant terrorist bomber, brought Barack into the board of the Annenberg Challenge. Barack has dissembled that Walter Annenberg was a conservative Republican, so that it must have been a good thing. Unfortunately what he doesn't like to talk about is that Annenberg was long since in the ground when Bill Ayers created the Annenberg Challenge and got the Annenberg Foundation to fund it. Barack doesn't discuss the abject failure of their having spent $160M of foundation money and come away with pretty nothing to show for it.
Link here.
And since heading up the Annenberg Challenge in Chicago is Barack's sole "executive experience" on his resume, this makes him well suited for the job he seeks, how?
Bill Ayers, and his wife (also an Obama friend) are most assuredly hard core socialists, they both still preach from that bible. Reverend Wright is a race baiting, black liberation theology preaching loose cannon, whom Barack apparently heard nothing untoward from despite sitting in the man's church for twenty years. Then there is Barack's outright denial of having been a key figure spinning around ACORN in the 1990's. The outright lies of his denials had to be taken down from his "Fight the Smears" web site because they were proven beyond a doubt to be abject lies.
He was repportedly something of a lazy college student, we can't be entirely sure because he continues to stonewall release of his full college record. We do know that he graduated Columbia with a Poli Sci degree and zero honors, that would be a GPA below 3.3. That makes his admission to Harvard Law most likely based on factors aside from his academic record at Columbia, and the JuCo in California that he did two years at before transferring to Columbia.
We know he authored exactly one small article during his incumbency as president of the Harvard Law Review, but we know precious little else.
The bottom line here is that the sum of a man's education and experiences are, in large part, indiciative of how he will be looking forward. Barack comes from the corrupt belly of the Chicago Democrat machine. He has closely and comfortably associated with some of the most radical elements of the modern left wing. His "plan" for America includes a healthy dose of socialist policy and process.
And perhaps I am the only one who has noticed that Barack's call for a civilian "national police force" (which on it's face sounded extremely fascistic when he was floating it) have disappearred from his stump speech and web site.
I understand that he is your man and I understand that I can't sway you. But America has a right to know iintimately at a basis level of philosophy and outlook who they are electing president. Barack has been far less than fully reticent to this point. Yet, you are telling me it's over, everything will be okay, so just forget about it.
Well sorry, but I can't buy that. And America shouldn't have to.
The answer is that he would pay 3 points more in taxes than under the current tax policy. It would be the same that he would pay if Bill Clinton were still President. Businesses didn't seem to suffer under Clinton did they? I rest my case.
Ahhhh yes, let's trot out how well off everyone was under Bill Clinton as an argument. Sorry but that won't wash because Bill Clinton isn't standing for election and the economy overall is nowhere near as robust as it was when Bill Clinton took office, or when he left it for that matter. I've said it before that raising taxes of any kind in the current economic environment is tantamount to economic suicide, yet Barack is going to do it anyway.
I rest my case.
Never fully answered? What is your fear regarding who he associated with in the past? Do you think he'll appoint them to his cabinet? I mean really, what is the concern here?
That's right, never fully answered. I don't fear that he'll appoint people like Bill Ayers or Reverend Wright to his cabinet. I am concerned that these people, and others, are who Barack himself admitted (long before he was running for president) as having shaped his political philosophies.
Bill Ayers, aside from being an unrepentant terrorist bomber, brought Barack into the board of the Annenberg Challenge. Barack has dissembled that Walter Annenberg was a conservative Republican, so that it must have been a good thing. Unfortunately what he doesn't like to talk about is that Annenberg was long since in the ground when Bill Ayers created the Annenberg Challenge and got the Annenberg Foundation to fund it. Barack doesn't discuss the abject failure of their having spent $160M of foundation money and come away with pretty nothing to show for it.
Link here.
The CAC operated in 210 Chicago schools between 1996 and 2001. At the CAC's conclusion, an evaluation report was prepared and titled, "The Chicago Annenberg Challenge: Successes, Failures, and Lessons for the Future Final Technical Report of the Chicago Annenberg Research Project."
On page 14 of the executive summary we find that "the Challenge had little impact on student outcomes." On page 15, the report says: "There were no statistically significant differences between Annenberg schools and non-Annenberg schools in rates of achievement gain" and that "any improvements were much like those occurring in demographically similar non-Annenberg schools."
On page 14 of the executive summary we find that "the Challenge had little impact on student outcomes." On page 15, the report says: "There were no statistically significant differences between Annenberg schools and non-Annenberg schools in rates of achievement gain" and that "any improvements were much like those occurring in demographically similar non-Annenberg schools."
And since heading up the Annenberg Challenge in Chicago is Barack's sole "executive experience" on his resume, this makes him well suited for the job he seeks, how?
Bill Ayers, and his wife (also an Obama friend) are most assuredly hard core socialists, they both still preach from that bible. Reverend Wright is a race baiting, black liberation theology preaching loose cannon, whom Barack apparently heard nothing untoward from despite sitting in the man's church for twenty years. Then there is Barack's outright denial of having been a key figure spinning around ACORN in the 1990's. The outright lies of his denials had to be taken down from his "Fight the Smears" web site because they were proven beyond a doubt to be abject lies.
He was repportedly something of a lazy college student, we can't be entirely sure because he continues to stonewall release of his full college record. We do know that he graduated Columbia with a Poli Sci degree and zero honors, that would be a GPA below 3.3. That makes his admission to Harvard Law most likely based on factors aside from his academic record at Columbia, and the JuCo in California that he did two years at before transferring to Columbia.
We know he authored exactly one small article during his incumbency as president of the Harvard Law Review, but we know precious little else.
The bottom line here is that the sum of a man's education and experiences are, in large part, indiciative of how he will be looking forward. Barack comes from the corrupt belly of the Chicago Democrat machine. He has closely and comfortably associated with some of the most radical elements of the modern left wing. His "plan" for America includes a healthy dose of socialist policy and process.
And perhaps I am the only one who has noticed that Barack's call for a civilian "national police force" (which on it's face sounded extremely fascistic when he was floating it) have disappearred from his stump speech and web site.
I understand that he is your man and I understand that I can't sway you. But America has a right to know iintimately at a basis level of philosophy and outlook who they are electing president. Barack has been far less than fully reticent to this point. Yet, you are telling me it's over, everything will be okay, so just forget about it.
Well sorry, but I can't buy that. And America shouldn't have to.
