Divisive Politics is Anti-American

[bolverk]

Oct 22, 2008 12:24:11 GMT -5 JustMyOpinion said:

Big Dog. in my opinion, and I'm entitled to it, we have to look forward. We are up against it with failed economics, we are at war, we are under eminent threat for a terrorist attack, the list goes on and on.

We have to find a way to get our country working for all of us again regardless of party, or past failures.

Lets just hope that an outgoing Republican administration is not as juvenile as the previous outgoing administration when they lost power. I am sure that all the O's will be left on the keyboards. I am sure there will not be a lawsuit that prevents a transition team from being put in place while we hash out the votes and prevent the law from being followed by certifying the election. I am sure that this administration will be much more adult in their leaving the White House then the previous Democrat administration was.

I also bet that the biggest tax cheat in the history of the United States will not get a pardon either.

[bolverk]

Oct 22, 2008 12:31:53 GMT -5 saunterelle said:

Bob Barr?

Sure, that's how we'll get out of this financial crisis, a hand's off Libertarian. Your solution would be to let our economy crumble and bring America to its knees? That's real Patriotic! Sheesh!

STFU you knob. You wouldn't know patriotism if it walked up and bit you on the backside. Bob Barr is a way better choice then that socialist who is going to cause huge divisiveness in this country down the road. Once he gets up there and starts showing his true agenda and the Democrats in the Congress start pulling his strings, the people will become disillusioned with their choice.

By voting for Bob Barr, a former Republican, we will be sending a message to the Republican Party that we are sick and tired of Rockefeller Republicans. Obama is a lock in this pathetic state of "I can't do it alone I need the government to make my choices" constituents. If all the Republicans in this state rallied behind Bob Barr or Alan Keyes, we could send a real message to the party. It is a very good way to let them know we are sick of their choices.

But, I guess we could all just go along to get along and vote Obama, right? Yeah, I am gonna do that when hell freezes over.

[bolverk]

In fact suanterelle, I smite you for calling my patriotism into question at all. I served three years and three months active duty for this country. Have you ever put in any time in the military? Somehow, I doubt it. I bet you feel your better and smarter then most soldiers anyway. Me, I served when there was no draft, so I rest my case, I am very patriotic. You are very pathetic.

[saunterelle]

You wouldn't know patriotism if it walked up and bit you on the backside. Bob Barr is a way better choice then that socialist who is going to cause huge divisiveness in this country down the road.

Actually, Bob Barr's "pure capitalism" philosophy would create a chasm between rich and poor in this country. Come on, Bush's policies were bad enough. Obama's aim is to reestablish our middle class.

I'd be curious to hear Barr's solution to our economic crisis.

I don't doubt that you love America, I simply think you're misguided in your view of which policies will make America a better country. We've seen the disastrous results of the last 8 years. That's enough to make most of America wake up to reality, why not you?

You've been smited for your outburst of anger.

[JustMyOpinion]

Bolverk, my response regarding the "right" was in response to subdjoe, and I since I didn't quote him did you miss that?

Hmmm....somehow it is appropriate for an uber-lib to be talking about divisive politics. After all, that is what the libs are best at - divide the population into as many little groups as possible and then setting them at each others throats. Can't be just plain old 'merican. Gotta be a hypenated-american. With the emphasis on what is in front of the hyphen rather than on the American.

I wasn't starting a petty debate, I was making a point that both sides are out of line (yes, even the right) and it is counter productive.

[bolverk]

Oct 22, 2008 12:54:26 GMT -5 saunterelle said:

You wouldn't know patriotism if it walked up and bit you on the backside. Bob Barr is a way better choice then that socialist who is going to cause huge divisiveness in this country down the road.

Actually, Bob Barr's "pure capitalism" philosophy would create a chasm between rich and poor in this country. Come on, Bush's policies were bad enough. Obama's aim is to reestablish our middle class.

I'd be curious to hear Barr's solution to our economic crisis.

I don't doubt that you love America, I simply think you're misguided in your view of which policies will make America a better country. We've seen the disastrous results of the last 8 years. That's enough to make most of America wake up to reality, why not you?

You've been smited for your outburst of anger.

Alright, I am doing my job anytime you smite me. In fact, you even smote me for something that did not occur, I like that even better. Your desperation and lack of ability to look to our countries history is showing.

I bet you did not even know that in the last forty years the Democrats have had 14 years of veto proof majorities in the Senate and the Republicans have had none. We rejected those in the 1980's, but our short sightedness is coming around and might just give back to the Democrat what they have shown to be irresponsible with, a veto proof majority. History will repeat itself, and the outcome will be no different. Liberalism is the problem.

[bolverk]

Oct 22, 2008 12:54:54 GMT -5 JustMyOpinion said:

Bolverk, my response regarding the "right" was in response to subdjoe, and I since I didn't quote him did you miss that?

Hmmm....somehow it is appropriate for an uber-lib to be talking about divisive politics. After all, that is what the libs are best at - divide the population into as many little groups as possible and then setting them at each others throats. Can't be just plain old 'merican. Gotta be a hypenated-american. With the emphasis on what is in front of the hyphen rather than on the American.

I wasn't starting a petty debate, I was making a point that both sides are out of line (yes, even the right) and it is counter productive.

Yes, and you made the point that we need to look forward. Yet going back to what failed for 14 years is not looking forward. The Democrats failed us in every filibuster proof majority they ever had, period, end of story.

[bolverk]

How many of you remember when Nixon had to freeze prices. It failed, but it was in response to an overwhelming majority in Congress, though not quite filibuster proof, but it was veto proof. Democrats and liberals never saw a tax they did not like or want to increase. How does that build the middle class. And it was the middle class that voted those majorities out, yet here we are, poised to bring back that which raped the middle class for 14 years, a filibuster proof Democrat majority in both the House and Senate. Talk about dangerous.

[bolverk]

Oct 22, 2008 12:54:26 GMT -5 saunterelle said:

You wouldn't know patriotism if it walked up and bit you on the backside. Bob Barr is a way better choice then that socialist who is going to cause huge divisiveness in this country down the road.

Actually, Bob Barr's "pure capitalism" philosophy would create a chasm between rich and poor in this country. Come on, Bush's policies were bad enough. Obama's aim is to reestablish our middle class.

I'd be curious to hear Barr's solution to our economic crisis.

I don't doubt that you love America, I simply think you're misguided in your view of which policies will make America a better country. We've seen the disastrous results of the last 8 years. That's enough to make most of America wake up to reality, why not you?

You've been smited for your outburst of anger.

Do you even pay attention?

Do you even know how to read?

One, the Constitution gives no power over the economy to the President. That is the job of Congress. Stop putting up the false front that it is the Presidents policies that cause the problem, when it is the lack of a back bone to make any decisions in Congress that is the real problem. Perhaps they should not spend so much time politicing when they are bound by a duty to do the peoples business.

As to Bob Barr's policies, you can either go to his website and read them, or blame the main stream media for failing to present them. Either way, it is your responsibility as a voter to learn these things, a responsibility you have shown to be severely lacking in.

I should smite you for your ploy, but I don't want to hear the liberal whining that would ensue. Though you certainly deserve it with your pathetic post.

[saunterelle]

One, the Constitution gives no power over the economy to the President. That is the job of Congress. Stop putting up the false front that it is the Presidents policies that cause the problem, when it is the lack of a back bone to make any decisions in Congress that is the real problem. Perhaps they should not spend so much time politicing when they are bound by a duty to do the peoples business.

It's called VETO power.

[bolverk]

Yes, veto power, not policy power. And, if the congress wants it can pass the bill anyway. It is called doing the peoples business.

However, the President does not have any authority to write a single bill with regards to raising revenue. That power lies strictly in the House of Representatives.

[bolverk]

Funny how racism is replaced with age discrimination regarding this race. At lest 91% of Americans are comfortable with having an American as president who is black, but only 50% are comfortable with a 71 year old President. Yet you still hear prominent Democrat Senators calling their constituents racists for not siding with Obama. If you don't vote for Obama, you are in the 9% of the country who must be racist I guess.

Surging Obama campaign suggests US racism on the wane

Predujice lingers, but there’s evidence it’s becoming a thing of the past.

“I hear this [racial] stuff every day – it’s real,” she says. “I think a lot of whites are afraid of what’s going to happen if Obama gets elected. Everybody’s real confused right now.”

Ms. Whittle does not think the country is ready for an African-American president. But with the polls continuing to give Obama a solid lead, others disagree strongly. And they’re worried about what could happen if Obama doesn’t win on Nov. 4.

“I think there’ll be chaos,” says Jimmy Gray, a fruit vendor and pastor in Georgia who is black. “There are too many people ready for a new country and a new vision, and you’d see the 50 percent of people who support Obama rebelling against any other government you put in there.”

For many veterans of the civil rights movement, like former Mississippi Gov. William Winter, much more is at stake than an election.

“The election of Barack Obama as president of the United States would be the greatest thing for racial reconciliation and racial understanding that we could have happen in this country,” says Governor Winter. “And I think it would mean so much to us as a leader in the world as well as to be able to point to him as president of the United States.”

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