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Post by The Big Dog on Oct 24, 2008 11:45:50 GMT -5
Please explain how Ayers is Obama's "buddy." They sat on a board together, they had a brief work association. Hardly "buddies." Come now, you are not that obtuse are you? * Ayers specifically and personally selected Barack to the be the head of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. The function of that organization was to dispense well over a hundred million dollars to education "projects". One does not, responsibly anyway, turn over control of a hundred million dollar philanthropic project to someone he barely knows. That would be intensely stupid and the one thing I think we can agree on about Mr. Ayers is that he is not stupid. * They served together, working hand in hand, on that project for five years dispensing those many millions of dollars. * They sat on the board of the Woods Foundation for four years. * They apparently worked somewhat closely during Obama's eight years sitting on the board of the Joyce Foundation.* Barack launched his first political candidacy in Bill Ayers's living room. * Barack wrote a blurb for one of Ayers's books. Authors don't ask another "guy in the neighborhood" to do that. It is a very personal thing, and as an author you ask people who are wholly sympathetic to your views. In short, and in toto, Barack has a much deeper relationship (particularly at the professional level) than he has publicly admitted. He has not been candid, and in some respects has been downright evasive. That is what is most troubling. |
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Post by saunterelle on Oct 24, 2008 12:10:23 GMT -5
Obviously Ayers saw special leadership qualities in Obama just as the American people do today.
Okay, another work-related relationship.
How so? My understanding is that Ayers was not on the board of the Joyce Foundation. The article you linked to does not mention Ayers at all.
FALSE. This claim has repeatedly been disproven. Do you have any evidence to back this claim up?
Yes, this shows that Obama is sympathetic to Ayers' views on the juvenile court system. Is there something wrong with that? This, again, suggests a working relationship and not that they were "buddies."
Like you said, the evidence points to a professional, work-related relationship. Obama has admitted this many times. He has said "I know the man and have worked with him in the past." He has condemned Ayers' youthful terrorist activities with the Weather Underground. What more do you want him to say?
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Post by saunterelle on Oct 24, 2008 12:15:41 GMT -5
Please explain how Ayers is Obama's "buddy." They sat on a board together, they had a brief work association. Hardly "buddies." SHUT UP ALREADY, how many times must we hear the same talking point over and over and over and over. We get it already. Obama is as pure as the driven snow, he can walk on water, he has never done anything wrong and he has been anointed by the media. Just try to make a point without using talking points we hear on television every damn day. Bolverk, you sound like a wannabe Bill O'Reilly. I'm simply disputing the claim that Ayers and Obama are buddies. The claim that Obama "palls around with terrorists" is ludicrous. |
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Oct 24, 2008 12:17:59 GMT -5
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Post by maxsawdust on Oct 24, 2008 12:21:00 GMT -5
There's plenty more he could say.
But that would piss off his buddy Ayers.
He could repudiate Bill Ayers entirely , as he should. The man made some shady comments as late as 2001.
The man was a TERRORIST domestic or otherwise TERRORIST.
Who has yet to completely repent, and even IF he did. Should people pal around with OBL if he claims "He made some mistakes" in his "Early years".
YES I UNDERSTAND OBL has more death on his hands..none the less AYERS WAS A TERRORIST. I Don't care one bit that some liberal whack jobs think he should be a "Professor" they are as clueless and COMMIE as the rest of the enlightened and OH SO Tolerant liberals.
I mean SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THE LIST OF OBAMA's Scumbag friends top to bottom.
And YES EVERYONE IS TO SOME EXTENT JUDGED BY THE COMPANY THEY KEEP , it's a fact of life worldwide.
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Post by saunterelle on Oct 24, 2008 12:22:19 GMT -5
There's plenty more he could say. But that would piss off his buddy Ayers. He could repudiate Bill Ayers entirely , as he should. The man made some shady comments as late as 2001. The man was a TERRORIST domestic or otherwise TERRORIST. Who has yet to completely repent, and even IF he did. Should people pal around with OBL if he claims "He made some mistakes" in his "Early years". YES I UNDERSTAND OBL has more death on his hands..none the less AYERS WAS A TERRORIST. I Don't care one bit that some liberal whack jobs think he should be a "Professor" they are as clueless and COMMIE as the rest of the enlightened and OH SO Tolerant liberals. I mean SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THE LIST OF OBAMA's Scumbag friends top to bottom. And YES EVERYONE IS TO SOME EXTENT JUDGED BY THE COMPANY THEY KEEP , it's a fact of life worldwide. * yawn * |
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Post by maxsawdust on Oct 24, 2008 12:26:19 GMT -5
elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/20/obama-praised-searing-timely-book-ayers/Ah yes I KNOW it's a "lie" and "The Man" because it's from Fox..of course..the newspaper clipping "fake". Send in the unicorns. SNIPPED: Barack Obama, who has consistently downplayed his relationship with William Ayers during his presidential campaign, once gave a glowing endorsement of a book by the former domestic terrorist and was mentioned by name in the book itself. A blogger unearthed the Dec. 21, 1997, endorsement in the Chicago Tribune and posted photographs of the praise for Ayers' book on Zombietime.com Saturday. Featured next to a smiling photograph of himself, then-State Senator Obama called Ayers' book, "A Kind and Just Parent: Children of the Juvenile Court," a "searing and timely account of the juvenile court system, and the courageous individuals who rescue hope from despair." The book, which details life at the Chicago Juvenile Court prison school, mentions Obama by name on page 82 when it describes Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood: "Our neighbors include Muhammad Ali, former mayor Eugene Sawyer, poets Gwendolyn Brooks and Elizabeth Alexander, and writer Barack Obama. Minister Louis Farrakhan lives a block from our home and adds, we think, a unique dimension to the idea of 'safe neighborhood watch': the Fruit of Islam, his security force, has an eye on things twenty-four-hours a day." Ah isn't that sweet the neighborhood watch provided by Farrakhan's Nation Of Islam..
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Post by saunterelle on Oct 24, 2008 12:30:21 GMT -5
And why does that bother you so much?
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Post by maxsawdust on Oct 24, 2008 12:45:08 GMT -5
Well I take it you know NOTHING about the nation of Islam or the NOI. In fact you probably have no idea what I'm talking about.
Here's a couple pearls from ol' Lou.
"White people are potential humans…they haven’t evolved yet."
"The Jews have been so bad at politics they lost half their population in the Holocaust. They thought they could trust in Hitler, and they helped him get the Third Reich on the road."
These are just a couple the guy has THOUSANDS of these out there.
You know that Malcolm X also preached white inferiority, and black genetic superiority...Sounds eerily familiar to the most hated man ever to live....
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Post by saunterelle on Oct 24, 2008 12:48:22 GMT -5
When has Obama EVER suggested that he shares the views of these people?
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Oct 24, 2008 12:59:49 GMT -5
Max, so does that mean that all of the students that Bill Ayers taught, and friends of his children are terrorists?
Chances are, unless you live under a rock, we all have had contact with people who have made unsavory choices especially if one is as involved with politics as Obama. Some careers place people in the position of crossing paths with all types, and if I were working next to an educator that is as well established as Ayers I probably wouldn't think too much more about it. It's not like Obama "palled around" with him in secret underground hiding places.
Six degrees of separation again?
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Oct 24, 2008 13:05:09 GMT -5
Hyde Park Islamic?! I'll bet you think terrorists live there. Have you ever been to Hyde Park? My in-laws used to live there, I've been there. It is a beautiful old neighborhood with stately homes. Granted a few blocks down the road it gets seedy, but that is not unusual in Chicago.
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