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Post by maxsawdust on Oct 24, 2008 13:13:58 GMT -5
oh no, JMO are you a non-reader also?
Where did I say Hyde park is Islamic?
That's QUOTE from Ayers book.
HIS NEIGHBORHOOD is protected by Louis Farrakhans "Security" detail.
No it DOES NOT mean they are terrorists..again did I say that?
You HAVE NO IDEA what Obama and Ayers do together, other than what you ARE TOLD BY THEM. PERIOD.
The simple fact that ANY University on Earth especially in America made this guy a "professor" shows to me just how crazy the left truly is.
Why don't they give professorship to Manson and OJ as well.
You although you claim to be "independent" are a typical leftist deabter,as you are putting words in my mouth reopeatedly.
Always cracks me up when Lib's read into what i write..with things I never said.. like this beaut: I'll bet you think terrorists live there.
Other than Ayers and Dohrn I doubt it.
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Post by JustMyOpinion on Oct 24, 2008 14:31:59 GMT -5
Ok, you caught me! I was being a smart a-s. I couldn't help myself since so far the posts that I've read by you are well, a bit one sided. Should I pick on you for being a right-winger since apparently I am now a "typical leftist debater"?!
You're right, I am an Independent, and just so you know I did try to get on board with McCain and his views, partly because of this forum. Many here have posted some impressive information about McCain, so I thought it worthy to drop my pre-conceived ideas and took a good honest, and unbiased look. We owe it to ourselves and our fellow Americans to drop our prejudices (not necessarily racial) and choose a candidate that we believe is best suited to represent us.
Now, OBVIOUSLY you, and a few others take one side, and one side only. Fine and dandy, that works for you and that's what this country is about. I can respect that, can you?
In response to this:
Ah, neither do you.
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Post by maxsawdust on Oct 24, 2008 16:47:50 GMT -5
Well no because you see I BELIEVE the writer in question, gave a fair report. AFTER going through the ARCHIVAL DOCUMENTS of the various foundations.
Then his article was picked up by several news outlets including the WSJ.
And no one ever attempted to sue him??
If his whole report is BS why no formal apology, or lawsuit.
And again why wont B. Hussein just COMPLETELY repudiate the guy? Easy answer they are friends.
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Post by Mink on Oct 24, 2008 21:33:54 GMT -5
Mccain has military experience, and Palin has a few semesters here and there and finally received a BA in journalism. How is journalism relative to the VP position?
Who is the 'kid" here you are referring to? Obama is over 40. As for Mccain, he has military experience. Tell me, is the country in need of more military?? I'd say, we need someone to focus on the economy in particular and then some of the other "home" isues.
Have you researched Obama or are you repeating what you hear on FOX, because that is what this statement appears to be. They stress the community organizer, which isn't a bad choice for anyone. They forget his education at Harvard, the time in the Illinois State legislation and his time in the US Senate.
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Post by jgaffney on Oct 25, 2008 0:24:33 GMT -5
One of Obama's claims to fame is that he sat on the board for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, an attempt to improve Chicago elementary schools with federal monney and private grants. What Obama doesn't tell us about this, his only executive experience, is that the ideas that were used came straight out of Bill Ayers' radical socialist playbook, and that the program was an utter failure. The results of the CAC can be read here. Some important points: Our research indicates that student outcomes in Annenberg schools were much like those in demographically similar non-Annnenberg schools and across the Chicago school system as a whole, indicating that among the schools it supported, the Challenge had little impact on student outcomes. So, what happened to the $50 million bucks? Oh, wait, their intentions were good! Findings from large-scale survey analyses, longitudinal field research, and student achievement test score analyses reveal that while the Challenge contributed to the improvement of a number of Annenberg schools, there is little evidence of an overall Annenberg school improvement "effect." Any improvements were much like those occurring in demographically similar non-Annenberg schools. So, they had $50 million to spend, and what results did they produce? A study, that's all. Also, if you browse through the footnotes and endnotes, you'll see Bill Ayers' name more than once. So, Obama's executive experience is not just lacking, but shows a failure to perform in a critical role in education. Hopefully, Obama will not try to incorporate Bill Ayers' failed educational policies into the Department of Education.
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Post by Mink on Oct 25, 2008 0:31:27 GMT -5
And one thing you all keep forgetting in regards to Ayers and Obama's participation on that board is it is funded by Annenburg, a Republican who supports Mccain. Mccain and Annenburg go back too, in their relationship so doesn' t that tie Mccain into the same terrorism?.....hehe
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Post by The New Guy on Oct 25, 2008 0:47:14 GMT -5
i keep forgetting that mink has limited knowledge of how the real world functions.
mccain has a degree, don't you know? you cannot graduate from a service academy without one. and his military experience provides him with far more real world education than twenty degrees from harvard, yale, nd princeton combined.
what is obama's degree in anyway? and how does that relative to the presidential position?
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Post by Mink on Oct 25, 2008 1:10:46 GMT -5
A military degree? How does that relate to being a president? What will that do for the economy? Health? Education? Climate change? Senior citizens?
Give me a break! Did you not hear him a few weeks ago at one of his rallies where he address the audience as "my fellow prisoners"? He may have age as a factor on his side, but it is also detrimental.
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Post by The New Guy on Oct 25, 2008 1:27:13 GMT -5
a military degree? what is that? service academy students pursue degrees in engineering, mathematics, chemistry, biology, law, and economics, just to name a few. i'd love to hear you views on how obama's law degree will help him with the economy, healthcare, education, senior citizens, and (i can't believe you threw this one in there) climate change.
give me a break, did you not hear the MANY gaffes obama made at his rallies? remember 57 states?
please tell us how a law degree and a year in the senate qualifies him for all of the presidential challenges he will face? obama was a "community organizer." big whoop! he showed up on occasion to the senate. he hasn't led anything to speak of or done anything significant in his life. how does this make him so qualified?
mccain had graduated one of the toughest educational institutions in the world, led a unit in combat operations, and took on responsibilities you could never fathom all by the time he was in his late twenties. what has obama done almost 50 years?
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Post by Mink on Oct 25, 2008 1:41:37 GMT -5
It sounds like you're trying to convince yourself that Mccain is capable. Mccain will only continue what you already like and that is a neocon administration that serves the rich only. Yes, I heard Obama's slip- "57 states".....so, he looked tired. Mccain has been continually making goofs since the primaries with Liebermann by his side knudging him with the correct answer/s. Mccain just may have whatever degree he acquired in the academy, but he is too old and getting older day by day. What does that leave us.........I shudder to think. Palin, who has as much experience as one can expect from a small town in a sparcely populated, frigid state. whoopee She knows she can't physically see Russia from her backyard, but she insisted on saying that on national TV.....my God. The little island in Alaska where you can see Russia literally, they have never seen her and some don't know who she is. Shhheeeesh
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