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Post by subdjoe on Oct 28, 2008 22:08:20 GMT -5
I found this on another forum.
Today on my way to lunch, I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed.
Once in the restaurant, my waiter had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference, just imagine the coincidence.
When the bill came, I decided not to tip the waiter and I explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need, the homeless guy outside. The waiter angrily stormed from my sight in a huff!
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10, and told him to thank the waiter inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was really grateful.
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment, I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn, even though the actual recipient needed the money more.
I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application
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Post by Mink on Oct 28, 2008 22:25:34 GMT -5
Yeah, Bush thought it was practical too to give the tax cuts to the wealthy, figuring it would produce a domino affect. The rich would bring jobs to all the not so rich folk........what happened?
The rich got richer and we are approaching sky rocket unemployment. I guess it boils down to one's interpretation of "practicality".
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Post by jgaffney on Oct 29, 2008 0:00:58 GMT -5
Yeah, Bush thought it was practical too to give the tax cuts to the wealthy, figuring it would produce a domino affect. The rich would bring jobs to all the not so rich folk........what happened?
The rich got richer and we are approaching sky rocket unemployment. I guess it boils down to one's interpretation of "practicality".
You know, Alan Colmes tried that same line of reasoning tonight against Newt Gingrich on Hannity & Colmes. I guess you both read from the same playbook. Gingrich, however, is much more educated and was able to respond handily to Colmes' hollow accusation: - The number of jobs in the US has grown considerably since the Bush tax cuts. Until just recently, with the bursting of the subprime mortgage bubble brought on by the reckless behavior of Fannie and Freddie, US unemployment was at all-time lows. I have posted links here for you before. Did you even bother to look? The links were not to some partisan right wing website, but to the Bureau of Economic Statistics, an arm of the Labor Department. Let me know if you want me to re-post the links.
- The Bush tax cuts resulted in increased revenue to the federal government, and increased spending by the Congress. The Obama tax increases are hoped by Obama to result in increased revenue to the federal govenrment, and increased tax credits to those who don't pay taxes anyway. This redistributionist transfer is just welfare by another name. Why not just call it welfare?
Let me know if you want me to re-post those links to the history of job growth under the Bush administration. Is that two liberal myths dispelled with one post? |
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Post by Mink on Oct 29, 2008 0:12:33 GMT -5
I don't watch FOX and I don't have to wait for someone to give me an idea.
I'm so tired of your rhetoric and defense of a president who's ratings are the lowest if not close to it. I honestly think you believe what you're saying, but just look around or are you in a bubble?
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Post by jgaffney on Oct 29, 2008 0:17:17 GMT -5
I'm so tired of your rhetoric and defense of a president who's ratings are the lowest if not close to it. I honestly think you believe what you're saying, but just look around or are you in a bubble? Does the bubble you imagine me in include hard statistical data from the Labor Department? Are you interested in looking at the facts that will refute your earlier claim, or are you just trying to make me go away? |
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Post by subdjoe on Oct 29, 2008 1:07:13 GMT -5
I don't watch FOX and I don't have to wait for someone to give me an idea. I'm so tired of your rhetoric and defense of a president who's ratings are the lowest if not close to it. I honestly think you believe what you're saying, but just look around or are you in a bubble? And I'm tired of hate filled, bigoted, leftist lynch mobs howleing after Bush for every rumor, half truth, lie, and inuendo put out by rich white socialists. Then, when presented with FACTS rather than the Revealed Truth they ignore it. |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 29, 2008 13:02:05 GMT -5
I found this on another forum. Today on my way to lunch, I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed. Once in the restaurant, my waiter had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference, just imagine the coincidence. When the bill came, I decided not to tip the waiter and I explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need, the homeless guy outside. The waiter angrily stormed from my sight in a huff! I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10, and told him to thank the waiter inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was really grateful. At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment, I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn, even though the actual recipient needed the money more. I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application Man, that is a great idea. I am going to be spreading some wealth around every time I go out to eat now. Especially if Obama gets elected. |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 29, 2008 13:06:35 GMT -5
Yeah, Bush thought it was practical too to give the tax cuts to the wealthy, figuring it would produce a domino affect. The rich would bring jobs to all the not so rich folk........what happened? The rich got richer and we are approaching sky rocket unemployment. I guess it boils down to one's interpretation of "practicality". Tax cuts to the wealthy, what a joke. You really don't know anything more then talking points, do you. At this very moment I am reviewing the entire history of income tax rates in this nation and the changes they went through over time. I am also comparing who was in control of congress at the time of each passage of new tax laws. One thing is for sure. Democrats are responsible for the income tax plain and simple, as they had a majority in the House of 66.9%, in the Senate of 53.1% and Woodrow Wilson was President, another coup de grace by a Democratically controlled government. They have a history of such things and have never flinched from stealing from the peoples pocket books. And you are one of them. |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 29, 2008 13:10:45 GMT -5
I don't watch FOX and I don't have to wait for someone to give me an idea. I'm so tired of your rhetoric and defense of a president who's ratings are the lowest if not close to it. I honestly think you believe what you're saying, but just look around or are you in a bubble? There we go again. Even with the Bureau of Economic Statistics numbers you blame Bush for an economy ruined by a Congress that failed to do it's job over the last two years. |
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Post by Mink on Oct 29, 2008 21:48:21 GMT -5
I'm so tired of your rhetoric and defense of a president who's ratings are the lowest if not close to it. I honestly think you believe what you're saying, but just look around or are you in a bubble? Does the bubble you imagine me in include hard statistical data from the Labor Department? Are you interested in looking at the facts that will refute your earlier claim, or are you just trying to make me go away? No, I don't try and make anyone "go away", he-he  You can bring all your stats, but did Bush's tax cuts to the wealthy create more jobs? I am not including the part time, no health benefit "pennies from heaven" jobs either. As much as gave his speeches telling us the country was/is doing great, why have so many business gone away in his time? |
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Post by Mink on Oct 29, 2008 21:49:54 GMT -5
I don't watch FOX and I don't have to wait for someone to give me an idea. I'm so tired of your rhetoric and defense of a president who's ratings are the lowest if not close to it. I honestly think you believe what you're saying, but just look around or are you in a bubble? There we go again. Even with the Bureau of Economic Statistics numbers you blame Bush for an economy ruined by a Congress that failed to do it's job over the last two years. You keep forgetting there was a reason Congress has changed in the last two years. |
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Post by bolverk on Oct 30, 2008 11:29:05 GMT -5
There we go again. Even with the Bureau of Economic Statistics numbers you blame Bush for an economy ruined by a Congress that failed to do it's job over the last two years. You keep forgetting there was a reason Congress has changed in the last two years. And you keep forgetting that they had their chance to pass an Energy Bill, but went on vacation. You keep forgetting they had a chance to pass legislation to prevent a financial meltdown, but didn't. Instead they used their time to attacked Bush and drive down their own popularity to the lowest level in the history of Congress. You keep forgetting they said their was nothing wrong with Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, but then both failed. Barney Frank even came out on television and said both institutions were financially sound. No Republican did that. You keep forgetting that the Democrats used their time to do nothing after gaining the majority, creating a political business cycle that nearly destroyed people's financial retirements in this country, just to gain control of the Presidency and have locks on both houses. You keep forgetting, in spite of the mounting evidence, that nearly every financial disaster in the past happened under a Democratically controlled House, Senate and Presidency. Like the creation of our tax code. You keep forgetting that the Democrats are responsible for illegal immigration. The number one argument against allowing riders on bills, like the ones they put on the civil rights bill of 1968. You keep forgetting many things. There was a reason for the changes that brought Reagan into office. You must not have noticed the level of suffering your parents had to go through with the confiscatory tax levels that existed, created by Democrats. Well, I did. I won't forget it anytime soon either. Most people have, and they forget that they owe their prosperity to one man, and it is not Clinton. |
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