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Post by harpman1 on Jan 28, 2009 16:26:54 GMT -5
Anyone without a two million sunblock is gonna have a really bad day.
The audacity of nukes.
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Post by moondog on Jan 28, 2009 16:53:33 GMT -5
Bush left us open to attack in 2001 by taking an extended vacation and shoveling brush on TV. It showed the world (smugly) that America is relaxed and ripe for the picking.
So, according to your logic, the American troops, whom you claim to support, are totally incapable of doing their job unless the President is at his post, right? America was shown to be ripe for the picking when Clinton pulled the troops out of Somalia in 1993. bin Laden has told us as much in his own writings. It was re-inforced with our pathetic responses to the embassy bombings and the attack on the USS Cole. Those who refuse to learn from history are condemned to repeat it. I just pray that I'm outside the blast zone when it happens. And never forget the billion dollar cut in our intelligence budget by Democrats, which even Bill Clinton was opposed to, but not strong enough to veto. The opportunity and opening for 9/11 was clearly the fault of the left. |
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Post by barneyfife on Jan 28, 2009 17:19:35 GMT -5
Republican war mongering doesn't work.Bush left us open to attack in 2001 by taking an extended vacation and shoveling brush on TV. It showed the world (smugly) that America is relaxed and ripe for the picking. Obama is smarter than that. Doing an Arab TV interview lets them know that we are focused and watching their every move. It encourages the Arab people to respond by picking sides. Treating them with respect and opening dialogue is one way to let them know that they have our support if they pick the right side. Mark my words - Obama is going to kill people in Pakistan (already did), kill people in Afghanistan and kill people in Iran. Not all that "Peaceful" there dude..and in fact just more shock and awe..you so despise.....cept it's your guy so now it's "okay".. Once this thing gets rolling the Middle East WILL become white hot. Nuclear pollution in the Middle East means we roll out quick style leaving behind goodies. Russians right in Syria bla bla bla....no peace ANYTIME soon. You as I stated earlier are HIGH AS A KITE if you truly believe otherwise |
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Post by jgaffney on Jan 28, 2009 18:16:02 GMT -5
While Saunterelle is busy doing his victory lap, Ahmadinejad has replied to Obama's overture, and it's not very nice. Reuters has this: The Jerusalem Post, written by people who are much closer to the blast zone than we are3, adds this: Is Obama willing to meet all of these conditions, Saunterelle? Would he still get your unwavering support if he did? |
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Post by harpman1 on Jan 28, 2009 18:17:47 GMT -5
Cue the crickets.
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Post by Mink on Jan 28, 2009 19:56:21 GMT -5
RWA wrote:
Let's keep our dialogue civil please? Thank you, carry on and enjoy the debate!
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Post by saunterelle on Jan 28, 2009 20:04:34 GMT -5
Neither. That was a handful of people, they do not speak for an entire culture. That's like saying the soldiers who committed atrocities in Abu Ghraib represent the entire US military.
Of course he is not willing to meet all of those conditions. The amazing thing that is on display here is that Ahmadinejad will hang himself with his own words. Don't forget, Ahmadinejad has no power in Iran, he is simply a loudmouth, and he will be further spotlighted as a loudmouth when Obama continues his public discourse with Arabian people. Ahmadinejad's own people will turn against him, just watch...
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Post by Mink on Jan 28, 2009 20:54:56 GMT -5
Indeed, the news showed reaction of some of the ME people last night after the interview. One man said it gave him hope and a woman liked how it points to choices. A good sign and it will catch on regardless of the extremists' threats. They will find they have no followers.....
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Post by moondog on Jan 29, 2009 13:17:29 GMT -5
If only, if only, if only... I found myself repeating those words while watching Obama's first interview as President. If only Bush had been smart enough to try and talk with the Arab people instead of turning them against us.
Obama is a President we can be proud of. He is a true leader in every sense of the word. He will bring much peace to our violent world. Very refreshing:If you remember correctly, Forrest Gump got a lot done. In the movie he was a patriotic, honest, hardworking American. Seems to me you just paid Obama a complement.  Give me a break! Shock and awe has failed. It failed to win the hearts and minds of the Arab people. A different approach is what's needed. We have already proven our military might. It would be foolish to keep flexing our muscles when it obviously isn't working. That's why the Republicans didn't get elected and McCain lost every single debate, especially the one on foreign policy: Republican war mongering doesn't work.
Bush left us open to attack in 2001 by taking an extended vacation and shoveling brush on TV. It showed the world (smugly) that America is relaxed and ripe for the picking. Obama is smarter than that. Doing an Arab TV interview lets them know that we are focused and watching their every move. It encourages the Arab people to respond by picking sides. Treating them with respect and opening dialogue is one way to let them know that they have our support if they pick the right side.
Would those be the same Arab people who killed 3000 in America, or the ones cheering after it happened?
Neither. That was a handful of people, they do not speak for an entire culture. That's like saying the soldiers who committed atrocities in Abu Ghraib represent the entire US military.And once again, nice dodge bub. You answered one part of the question. First, a handful carried out the attack, but about 10% of their populations are engaged in questionable to terrorist activities. So your comparison is way, way off base. There is no way that 10% of our soldiers were committing atrocities at Abu Ghraib. If you believe there was, then we have absolutely nothing to talk about, because you would be in the realm of fantasy not reality. So, I ask you this. Should we negotiate with the very Arab people who were cheering after 3,000 people were killed after their fellow Muslims flew planes into our buildings? That was far more then a handful, it was a vast number of the population. Answer that, oh genuflecting lemming of the left.  |
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Post by subdjoe on Jan 29, 2009 13:30:08 GMT -5
Neither. That was a handful of people, they do not speak for an entire culture. [ u]That's like saying the soldiers who committed atrocities in Abu Ghraib represent the entire US military.[/u][/color][/quote] Which didn't prevent a good portion of the left, including many in elected office, from saying exactly that. My, how short your memory is. |
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Post by harpman1 on Jan 29, 2009 13:54:51 GMT -5
The infamous protest sign from March 2003 says it all.
"No War Unless A Democrat Is President!"
What more do you need to know?
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Post by saunterelle on Jan 29, 2009 14:05:25 GMT -5
moondog wrote:
10% of Arabs are engaged in terrorist activities?? Can you please site your source for that laughably false piece of misinformation?
Obama is not negotiating, he is engaging in conversation. There is a big difference. A confident President engages in dialogue, even with the enemy. A weak President isolates himself, lobs missiles, and has other people talk for him.
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