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Post by subdjoe on Mar 25, 2009 20:22:00 GMT -5
An economics professor at Texas Tech said he had never failed a single student before but had, once, failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said ok, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism.
All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A. After the first test the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. But, as the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too; so they studied little. The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an F.
The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great; but when government takes all the reward away; no one will try or want to succeed.
Could not be any simpler than that....
And this is what Steve wants for our economy.
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Post by heckheckle on Apr 19, 2009 18:08:56 GMT -5
Why do I think the test is Invalid?
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Post by The Big Dog on Apr 19, 2009 22:11:55 GMT -5
Why do I think the test is Invalid? Because you can't get your head pulled out of the intellectual sand it's buried in? Just a guess, but there you go. |
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Post by jgaffney on Apr 19, 2009 23:15:10 GMT -5
Why do I think the test is Invalid?
Because you can't get your head pulled out of the intellectual sand it's buried in?
Just a guess, but there you go.Heck, you are pulling the time-worn Leftist trick of misdirection. Rather than debate the issue of socialism, you call into question the terms of the analogy. Maybe you could come up with your own illustration of why you think the President's socialist agenda is good for the country? |
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Post by heckheckle on Apr 21, 2009 17:01:52 GMT -5
There is a great deal wrong about Obama's agenda, but I would certainly rather have his agenda, than one like we had with George Herbert Hoover Bush.
It's nice being an Independent as I can pick and choose what I want to say without a bunch of "Sheep", Baa, Telling me what I should say. Right now, we have no "Party" running
the American Government.
As far as Bush Jr. giving the Clinton Budget Surplus to the Republican Fat Slobs, I think Obama
just dumping "Truck loads" of CASH MONEY to the Fat Slob Bankers has even the Fat Slobs
afraid to take it. Those that took it are afraid of the consequences, and are trying to give it back, but no one seems to want the damned money. Those figures of the amount of money
are so Phoney that they change from minute to minute. Now Obama is trying to get Agencies to cut money from their "Allotment" because no one knows what in thee hell is going on.
Look forward to the real eye-opener, when it gets here. "The Federal Government calling in all
Paper money." If you can't account for it Legitimately, you won't get the new money to replace the old money. Remember when all gold was "Called In"?
Try this: Go to a bank and draw out a lot of cash in paper money. Then count it. You won't know which ones are real or which ones are counterfeit. There are just so many different printings. Foriegn Lands are full of the fake American money. I saw on TV recently where
the U.S. is running off 50 dollar bills on copy machines.
Have a nice day.
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Post by crossride on Apr 21, 2009 21:01:17 GMT -5
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Post by sunny on Apr 21, 2009 22:54:55 GMT -5
I don't think the example that Sugdjoe gave is a really good one. I don't think any professor woulld really do that, do you?
We've studied socialism and it is really a good thing because the poor people don't get left behind. Everyone shares and it is just better all around. You don't have just a few people and companies getting all of the money and stuff.
I know some people will sya that like Cuba is bad but that's just because they haven't been doing it right. There it is all about Castro but it should be all about the people of the country. That's how it is supposed to work.
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Post by jgaffney on Apr 21, 2009 23:00:48 GMT -5
Sunny, you make a very good argument for what is wrong with our university system. America has 200 years of successful capitalism. Remember, we started from scratch. Name a socialist country that has 200 years of thriving history. Then, see my signature line below.
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Post by subdjoe on Apr 22, 2009 1:43:35 GMT -5
I don't think the example that Sugdjoe gave is a really good one. I don't think any professor woulld really do that, do you? We've studied socialism and it is really a good thing because the poor people don't get left behind. Everyone shares and it is just better all around. You don't have just a few people and companies getting all of the money and stuff. I know some people will sya that like Cuba is bad but that's just because they haven't been doing it right. There it is all about Castro but it should be all about the people of the country. That's how it is supposed to work. OK, you work 60 hours a week and take home 5000 dollars a month. I can only work about 10 hours a week and bring home 1000 dollars. So you need to give me 2000 of the dollars you earned. You wild be fine witht that. Oh, and I don't have any medical coverage, so you need to give me another 1000 a month so my wife and I are covered. I can dig it. Yes, it is over simplified, but that is what you are saying. |
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Post by jgaffney on Apr 23, 2009 17:11:41 GMT -5
Cue the crickets.
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Post by The Big Dog on Apr 23, 2009 22:48:19 GMT -5
Truths are quite often inconvenient... eh?
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Post by capttankona on Apr 27, 2009 15:13:31 GMT -5
I don't think the example that Sugdjoe gave is a really good one. I don't think any professor woulld really do that, do you? We've studied socialism and it is really a good thing because the poor people don't get left behind. Everyone shares and it is just better all around. You don't have just a few people and companies getting all of the money and stuff. I know some people will sya that like Cuba is bad but that's just because they haven't been doing it right. There it is all about Castro but it should be all about the people of the country. That's how it is supposed to work. Try Cuba, Germany, Italy, France, Russia or the USSR, China, North Korea, Cambodia, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Nicaragua, the former Czechoslovakia and of course Venezuela. All of these countries had massive loss of life before becoming or while in the process of exercising their socialist agenda. Hundreds of millions of innocent, peaceable, family loving people killed for not being politically correct and following the specific socialist manifesto of their nations by leaders like, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Phạm Vãn Ðồng, Pol Pot, Adlof Hitler, François Duvalier, Fidel Castro, Raul Castro, Che Guevera, Kim Jong-Il, etc., etc., etc. Even one of Obama’s friends is a devout socialist and has killed, one William Ayers, who made every couple in the Weather Underground break up and have group sex, so as to break the bonds between individuality. Don’t believe me, how about a Bill Ayers quote then, “Any notion that people can have responsibility for one person, that they can have that ‘out’ – we have to destroy that notion in order to build a collective; we have to destroy all ‘outs,’ to destroy the notion that people can lean on one person and not be responsible to the entire collective.” That is the evil that you support Sunny. And in order for it to come to pass, you will have to kill hundreds upon hundreds of millions of people to make it so. You can not deny what people of your ideology have done in the name of the very form of government you desire. However, what people like you and saunterelle, and of course the useful idiots like Mink, fail to recongnize or admit is that all these deaths lay at the feet of collectivism. The very collectivism you worship. YOU ARE THE ENEMY. You are against freedom, liberty and the individual. Open your youthful eyes and see what has gone before. If you do, you may well change your path before it is to late and you become just like saunterelle. A man who hates his very existence because he has no purpose in life, a man who feels guilty for everything he has ever accomplished. A man whose sickness is so complete that he would break apart his own family to achieve his goal of a collective government and an erasure of the individual. Only he fails to see one thing, it was the individual who brought us this far, not the collective. And that is why he will always be as he is, he fails to acknowledge the truth of life. It is the individual who achieves. |
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