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Post by ferrous on Jul 10, 2008 8:47:07 GMT -5
Something is not making sense. The whole Valeri Plame mess was about her husband going to Nigeria and denying President Bush's claim that Suddam was trying to buy "Yellow Cake." [The story begins at the end of the first Gulf War when inspectors found a 500 ton cache of refined yellow cake uranium at Iraq's primary nuclear research facility in Al—Tuwaitha outside of Bagdhad. The cache was part of a huge inventory of nuclear materials discovered by UN inspectors that included low—level radioactive material of the type used for industrial and medical purposes as well as a quantity of highly enriched uranium suitable for bomb production.] [ The IAEA placed a seal on the nuclear materials in November of 1992. From then until the fall of Saddam, the agency attempted to make sure that Iraq did not use the yellow cake to reconstitute its nuclear program, something the IAEA acknowledged could be done if the Iraqis were able to rebuild its centrifuges and gain access to additional fissile material. Keeping track of the material was made extraordinarily difficult by the Iraqis who regularly impeded IAEA officials from carrying out even the most routine inspections.] Two somewhat different takes on Iraq's 550 tonnes of Yellow Cake," english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/07/20087813165610303.htmlwww.americanthinker.com/2005/07/about_that_500_tons_of_yellow.htmlAnd yes, the only reason Suddam would have Yellow Cake (when his country has no Nuclear Power Plants) is using it in the development of a weapon. |
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Post by mrroqout on Jul 10, 2008 12:42:01 GMT -5
You're right mrroqout, it's not nice that he had those weapons but they weren't the ones we were looking for. Our basis for invading Iraq was that we had NO DOUBT he was hiding completed WMDs that were ready to launch. Remember? It was made to seem like an concern for our safety, fear-mongering at its finest. It seems like bolverk is trying to argue that we did find WMDs. This is simply not the case. End of story. I will make this really simple for you: SARIN GAS = WMD17 CHEMICAL WARHEADS = WMD1,500 GALLONS OF CHEMICAL WEAPON = WMDAll of which were COMPLETE enough to KILL AND INFLICT : MASS CASUALTIES AND DESTRUCTIONNothing to see here THOSE WEREN'T THE WMDS WE WERE LOOKING FOR..>We're looking for the OTHER ones..... BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA And again with you and the "End Of Story" typical Democrat I'm right without ANY FACTS..so shut up speech. Just like Obama Being Black ALL YOU HAVE IS : Saunterelle Story < FACTS |
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Post by bolverk on Jul 10, 2008 17:08:33 GMT -5
Right on cue, EXACTLY as I predicted. Saunterelle KNOWS what Saddams intent was........yeah no that's not laughable. www.husseinandterror.com/I'm SURE he had only the noblest of intentions... www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html-Can't be true FOX said it. Reading from a declassified portion of a report by the National Ground Intelligence Center, a Defense Department intelligence unit, Santorum said: "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent. Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist."www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1520691/postsConsider these shocking facts:
• Found: 1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium
• Found: 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons
• Found: Roadside bomb loaded with sarin gas
• Found: 1,000 radioactive materials--ideal for radioactive dirty bombs
• Found: 17 chemical warheads--some containing cyclosarin, a nerve agent five times more powerful than sarin
Yep absolutely nothing to see here. Damn you are a psychic. |
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Post by bolverk on Jul 10, 2008 17:13:53 GMT -5
Jeez, with this frame of mind, the US may as well go after Russia and China.......start a world war because we know others have WMD's or weapons that could kill us......oooohhhhh! Now there is a brilliant statement. And what ties do they have to terrorist organizations that extract their tolls in civilian deaths only? None. Exactly why people like you should never, ever be in charge of jack. Because you make such ridiculous statements. |
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Post by Mink on Jul 10, 2008 23:52:02 GMT -5
bloverk, how do you know that Russia and China aren't behind terrorism? No one does or at least our govt. isn't saying so..... I never said I want to be in charge.....and just so you know, your statements don't qualify you to be in charge either  |
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Post by bolverk on Jul 11, 2008 10:54:59 GMT -5
And there in is our difference, I don't want to be in charge, you just don't say you want to be.
Russian and China are both being hit by terrorism, you just do not read about it as often. Having spent some time in Asia, I got to read quite a bit about some of the problems and positions of other countries. And guess what, China is not behind terrorism. And since Russia has recently been a victim of terrorist, I doubt they are spreading it about either.
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Post by The Big Dog on Jul 11, 2008 12:45:19 GMT -5
bloverk, how do you know that Russia and China aren't behind terrorism? No one does or at least our govt. isn't saying so..... Russia has some very serious Islamo-fascist terror problems all along their southern border in former satellite states eupehmistically referred to as the "the Stans". They've been fighting a war against Islamo-fascists in Chechnya for a number of years and Chechnyan rebels have struck repeatedly around the country including in Moscow. You might remember the Nord-Ost siege in 2002. China has issues of it's own with Islamists in and around it's border areas. However, the most populous nation on earth is the weapon's supplier in chief to states like Iran and Syria and has long been suspect in funfing / fomenting Islamo-fascist terrorism across Southeast Asia. |
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Post by saunterelle on Jul 11, 2008 13:48:03 GMT -5
We're way off point here. The simple answer to the topic of this thread is NO. There were NO WMDs found in Iraq.
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Post by harpman1 on Jul 11, 2008 14:02:07 GMT -5
Sadaam was a WMD.
Are you prepared to cop to the fact that, at the time, nearly every Dem. in Congress signed on to the notion that he did?
Are they liars too?
Are they excused solely because they jumped ship on the soldiers as soon as they discovered no WMD's in the Palace closets?
Do you always abandon your friends as soon as they are fooled by others?
If Pres. Bush is a liar aren't all those hawkish Dem's liars too?
Do you have the slightest trace of personal integrity or honor?
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Post by saunterelle on Jul 11, 2008 15:23:20 GMT -5
Sadaam was a WMD. Are you prepared to cop to the fact that, at the time, nearly every Dem. in Congress signed on to the notion that he did? Are they liars too? Are they excused solely because they jumped ship on the soldiers as soon as they discovered no WMD's in the Palace closets? Do you always abandon your friends as soon as they are fooled by others? If Pres. Bush is a liar aren't all those hawkish Dem's liars too? Do you have the slightest trace of personal integrity or honor? Congress was not privy to the same intelligence the Bush administration had access to. This is well documented. They, along with the rest of use, were duped into rushing to war on false pretenses. |
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Post by harpman1 on Jul 11, 2008 15:38:45 GMT -5
Towards what end?
Enriching Big Oil?
Conquering the Middle East?
Getting contracts for Halliburton?
What was the secret reason we went to war?
How did the stupidest President in history fool the smartest people in Congress?
Why did he not simply plant WMD evidence?
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Post by harpman1 on Jul 11, 2008 17:27:51 GMT -5
Why are these simple questions so difficult to answer?
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