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Post by subdjoe on Aug 29, 2008 10:30:36 GMT -5
Gee, I can hardly wait for the misogynists, gynophobes and hate mongers of the left to start trashing Palin. The only reason not to vote for McCain is because you don't want to see a strong willed and capable woman a heartbeat away from the presidency.
She is relatively young, a strong reformer, willing to take on her parties heirarchy when she thinks it is wrong. A true maverick who supports and encourages true change and reform.
Yep. Good choice for "Panama" John McCain. Now we see who is the true candidate for 'chage' - McCain.
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Post by saunterelle on Aug 29, 2008 10:43:26 GMT -5
Well, it's an obvious ploy to capture the votes of disgruntled Hillary supporters. With that said, I like that he chose a 44 year old woman. However, with this choice he has forfeited his right to complain about Obama's lack of experience or the idea that he's not "qualified." I look forward to learning more about her.
It looks like the racist misogynists among us will have a tough choice this year.
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Post by mrbose on Aug 29, 2008 10:45:38 GMT -5
It's about time we get a candidate with enough balls to break from tradition and the good ol boys club.
NOBAMA '08
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Post by subdjoe on Aug 29, 2008 11:00:33 GMT -5
Saunterelle, thank you for making my point for me. A subtle slam at her, but a slam none the less.
As for your contention that McCain "has forfeited his right to complain about Obama's lack of experience or the idea that he's not "qualified." - bullcrap (I would have said bullshit, but some might object to that word, even though it is the only word that really fits). Barry STILL has no executive experience. All he brings besides a big smile and the ability to memorize and deliver a speech is several years of dodging responsibility in the lL legislature, a year of being a junior senator, and two years of running for president. Check out Palin. She is willing to stand up as an executive, make decisions and actually get things done. She doesn't seem to know how to vote 'present.' She is willing to go toe to toe, kick some ass and do the job. Seems like she has done a good job of cleaning up some of Alaskas problems.
Yep, the only reason the leftist hate mongers and gynophobes won't vote for the McCain-Palin ticket is because they are afraid of a strong woman being a heartbeat way from the presidencey.
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Post by saunterelle on Aug 29, 2008 11:16:16 GMT -5
Come on now Joe, you know that's not the case. The Democrats almost elected Hillary as their nominee. How are they the misogynistic party?
Fact is, Palin is the Dan Quayle of the 2008 election. Do you really think she's ready to take over as leader of our country on a moment's notice? Does she even have ANY foreign policy experience? Again, I look forward to learning more about her.
I can't wait for the VP debates. Joe Biden will eat her for breakfast.
The interesting part of this is that we will probably NEVER again see two white men together on the ballot. 2008 is ushering in a new era in American politics. Very interesting.
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Post by subdjoe on Aug 29, 2008 12:15:39 GMT -5
There you go again - Palin is the Dan Quayle of '08. And how much foreign policy experience does Barry-boy have? Zip, zero, nada. The only reason that the Dems came so close to nominating Hill is that they were hoping for more years of Bill.
Yeah, Cereal Joe is a real piece of work. I doubt very much he will be able to lay a glove on her.
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Post by mrroqout on Aug 29, 2008 12:16:22 GMT -5
As of this moment in time Palin is FAR AND AWAY MORE QUALIFIED to lead the nation than Obama.
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Post by crossride on Aug 29, 2008 12:40:09 GMT -5
Let me try to understand a few things.. since this is where I come to learn about politics. Obama has no in-depth experience, but that's okay because he is an outsider who will bring change. So he selects a man with experience as a VP which is good because he had experience, but bad because he is a Washington insider and does not represent change.
McCain is a "same old" typical republican white male candidate representing no change, but that is okay because we don't need change. So he selects a female, rebellious VP which is good because she will fight against the party line when needed to get things done, but she has no experience so that is bad, even though in what she has shown she can get things done in what little experience she has....
Oh I'm confused again. I do have one point I'd like to make about experience. I really don't think its such a bad thing for the VP to have less. McCain has plenty anyway, and so will many/most of his cabinet. I just think its more important that the Prez have it than the VP. He is the boss. But if you don't have it, then its not a really bad move to select a VP who does. Sort of evens things out. All in all, stop worrying about experience since that's evened out now, and please stop worrying about gender and race and who picked who for that.... We all know its a play to the voters... its politics after all.
Stick to policy stuff to help out poor me make my decision!
Thank you.
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Post by The Big Dog on Aug 29, 2008 13:09:42 GMT -5
Governor Palin's bio on Wikipedia... and while I don't consider Wikipedia the best of sources for straight biographical sketches they do pretty well. My thinking Palin really helps McCain solidify the conservative base he has spent years sticking his thumb in the eye of. She is also, at 44 years old, clearly being positioned in the first rank of very strong potential candidates down the road. McCain and the RNC are clearly thinking down the road in the event of an Obama win come November. Ethically she appears to be almost squeaky clean and can be positioned as a true partner in McCain's long held positions on wasteful spending in government. Her positions on abortion, firearms, spending and across a variety of social issues make her a candidate that real Republicans can stand up for. And if her being a woman sucks some of the PUMA / Hillary vote away from Obama, all is the better.
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Post by crossride on Aug 29, 2008 14:52:52 GMT -5
Thanks Big Dog, that makes more sense to me than "Dan Quayle of 2008". I'm sure Obama picked Biden to lure older white guys who were luke warm supporters of McCain just as much as McCain was going after disgruntled Hillary supporters anyway. I'll be doing my research.
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Post by bolverk on Aug 29, 2008 15:31:40 GMT -5
Well, it's an obvious ploy to capture the votes of disgruntled Hillary supporters. With that said, I like that he chose a 44 year old woman. However, with this choice he has forfeited his right to complain about Obama's lack of experience or the idea that he's not "qualified." I look forward to learning more about her. It looks like the racist misogynists among us will have a tough choice this year. And Biden is not an obvious ploy? Give me a break. Obama has no foreign policy experience, what so ever, so he picks Biden. The very man who said that Obama does not have enough experience to be President of the United States. You should pack it in saunterelle. |
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Post by bolverk on Aug 29, 2008 15:33:34 GMT -5
It's about time we get a candidate with enough balls to break from tradition and the good ol boys club. NOBAMA '08 What a great bumper sticker. NObama '08 |
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