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Post by The New Guy on Sept 13, 2008 22:54:30 GMT -5
i don't think anyone here ever said anything about killing just for the hell of it.  thanks for the links, mink. i had to think twice about going to the huffpo but against my better judgement i went anyway. i was not dissapointed to find that there wasn't much to see. it only contained a couple of excerpts of points that libs were trying to spin their way. the abc link was better in that it did have the transcript. i read it. i don't see what the problem is. can you tell me what is wrong with ANY of her responses? i did, however, detect an abundance of elitist snobbery and condescension from mr. gibson. the question that kept popping into my mind as i read was, "why didn't ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, or any other MSM ask the same "qualification" questions of obama in the last 19 months?" why did it take FOX to sit him down and ask some specific questions? |
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Post by Mink on Sept 13, 2008 23:01:53 GMT -5
BTW, I watched the videos on the interview and found that I did hear wrong. Palin does not support a ban on semi-automatics.
As for palin's responses, just not knowing about the Bush doctrine didn't seem, well, that she is prepared to take on VP.
Her responses seem like she was bobbing around for an answer/s as if she has no opinion, but throws one out anyway.
Charlie had to explain to her how her non answer didn't answer his question.
As for the other channels interviewing Obama, well let's put it this way....FOX was last.
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Post by surefire on Sept 13, 2008 23:13:40 GMT -5
BTW, I watched the videos on the interview and found that I did hear wrong. Palin does not support a ban on semi-automatics. Thanks for clarifying. I appreciate that you took the time to correct that impression. I also respect your honesty. |
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Post by Mink on Sept 13, 2008 23:24:54 GMT -5
Thank you surefire. I only want to understand palin, not roast her. Thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt that I may have misunderstood.......and you were right!!  |
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Post by surefire on Sept 13, 2008 23:25:29 GMT -5
As for palin's responses, just not knowing about the Bush doctrine didn't seem, well, that she is prepared to take on VP. Her responses seem like she was bobbing around for an answer/s as if she has no opinion, but throws one out anyway. Charlie had to explain to her how her non answer didn't answer his question. The concept of the Bush Doctrine is so vague that I think FEW know what it means, and furthermore you'd probably get 50 different answers if 100 people were asked. Experience will not come overnight, but I am confident that this woman has the intelligence to pick things up much quicker than average. |
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Post by Mink on Sept 13, 2008 23:47:19 GMT -5
As for palin's responses, just not knowing about the Bush doctrine didn't seem, well, that she is prepared to take on VP. Her responses seem like she was bobbing around for an answer/s as if she has no opinion, but throws one out anyway. Charlie had to explain to her how her non answer didn't answer his question. The concept of the Bush Doctrine is so vague that I think FEW know what it means, and furthermore you'd probably get 50 different answers if 100 people were asked. Experience will not come overnight, but I am confident that this woman has the intelligence to pick things up much quicker than average. I'm not concerned how most people would answer the question. I'm concerned with palin, running for VP, not knowing the answer. The VP shouldn't expect "hands-on training". Whoever runs better know what they are doing. |
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Post by surefire on Sept 13, 2008 23:51:21 GMT -5
The concept of the Bush Doctrine is so vague that I think FEW know what it means, and furthermore you'd probably get 50 different answers if 100 people were asked. Experience will not come overnight, but I am confident that this woman has the intelligence to pick things up much quicker than average. I'm not concerned how most people would answer the question. I'm concerned with palin, running for VP, not knowing the answer. The VP shouldn't expect "hands-on training". Whoever runs better know what they are doing. Should our next president expect hands on training? Obama is as green as Palin IMO, and is running for president. He will need hands on training when he takes office, in my opinion. |
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Post by ferrous on Sept 14, 2008 10:36:28 GMT -5
Mink seems to be meddeling in Alaska's internal affairs. The 4 year old program (Palin has been governor for only two of them) has accounted for more than about "600 wolves being killed under the program. The state estimates there are between 7,000 and 11,000 wolves in Alaska." Quote: "The program, now in its fourth year and operating in five areas of the state, is designed to increase moose and caribou numbers by reducing the number of predators. The incentives include offering 180 volunteer pilots and aerial gunners $150 in cash for turning in legs of freshly killed wolves, Gov. Sarah Palin's office announced Tuesday. ____ Previously, the only reward was a wolf pelt they could sell, usually for somewhere between $200 and $300, Bruce Bartley, Department of Fish and Game spokesman, told the Anchorage Daily News. The Palin administration is anteing up cash because the number of wolf kills this winter is behind schedule. State biologists wanted 382 to 664 wolves killed by the time the snow that helps with tracking disappears this spring. The predator-control season ends April 30. As of Tuesday morning, 98 wolves had been killed by aerial gunners, hunters and trappers. Pilots have complained that fuel prices are too high to fly and there hasn't been enough snow on the ground to track the elusive animals, said Matt Robus, Division of Wildlife Conservation director. There are also fewer wolves to kill now because of kills in past years, he said." www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17735990/Wasn't the same type of outrage heard fron environuts complaining about the thinning of the elk herds in Point Reyes, recently? |
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Post by Mink on Sept 14, 2008 14:57:17 GMT -5
Here is an update on Alaska's wolf hunt: aspcacommunity.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=658300%3ABlogPost%3A327521Quote: "Defenders Pleased As Alaska's Wolf Bounty Ends; Concern as State Targets Black Bears Statement by Tom Banks, Defenders of Wildlife Anchorage, AK -- In a status report filed by the state with the court on April 6 and received by Defenders of Wildlife and the other plaintiffs earlier this week, the Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G) stated it had immediately terminated the bounty program in response to the temporary restraining order and had decided not to pursue any further “incentive- type” payments such as aviation fuel for the remainder of this predator control season. The report also stated that the Board of Game has given no indication that it intends to meet to adopt emergency regulations to allow bounties. Following is a statement from Tom Banks, Defenders of Wildlife Alaska associate. “Defenders of Wildlife is very pleased to learn of the state's action. The Commissioner of ADF&G and the Governor violated the law in implementing the bounty program. While we are pleased with this victory, we are deeply troubled by the recent expansion of the predator control program in Unit 16B, an 11,000 square mile area north and northwest of Anchorage, to allow hunters to kill up to 1,400 of the estimated 1,500 to 2,000 black bears in this area. Most troubling is that sows and cubs are being targeted for the first time and the timing of the hunts could mean that cubs born this year could be left to starve if their mothers are killed. Lastly, airplane use is already outrageous. It'll be even more so if this expansion goes forward." ____________________________________________ From the same page: Rep. George Miller's Protect America's Wildlife Act will close the loophole exploited by Alaska state officials to enable outlawed aerial hunting to continue WASHINGTON – Today, Rep. George Miller (Calif.-D) took a critical first step toward ending the use of aircraft to hunt Alaska wolves and bears when he introduced the Protect America’s Wildlife (PAW) Act. The act will close a loophole in the Airborne Hunting Act, which Alaska legislators and officials have exploited to permit private hunters to use planes to hunt, harass and kill wolves and bears. Under Alaska’s program, wolves can either be shot from the air or chased to exhaustion before landing and shooting them point blank. In some areas of the state, grizzly bears and black bears can also be killed by “land and shoot” hunting. Even mother bears with cubs are targeted. “Alaska is flouting the will of Congress and exploiting a loophole in the Airborne Hunting Act, which was clearly intended to end aerial hunting by private citizens,” said Defenders of Wildlife President Rodger Schlickeisen. “To make matters worse, other states are now proposing to follow Alaska’s example.” ---------------------------------------------------- I continue to state that the brutal killing Alaska has been practicing is fanatical. |
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Post by Mink on Sept 14, 2008 14:59:36 GMT -5
I'm not concerned how most people would answer the question. I'm concerned with palin, running for VP, not knowing the answer. The VP shouldn't expect "hands-on training". Whoever runs better know what they are doing. Should our next president expect hands on training? Obama is as green as Palin IMO, and is running for president. He will need hands on training when he takes office, in my opinion. I disagree that he is as green as palin. Obama has had more experience in politics and he fits the requirements for the office of president, but this thread is not about Obama. |
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Post by harpman1 on Sept 14, 2008 15:06:09 GMT -5
Joe Biden is more qualified than Sarah Palin to fill the role of "a warm bucket of spit".
Problem is, folks just like Sarah a whole lot better.
No wonder!
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Post by Mink on Sept 14, 2008 16:50:48 GMT -5
Now, now, no need to get crude.
Palin may seem to have the effect because before she was announced, the party had nothing going. This still doesn't mean she is ready or qualified.
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